Might More Firearms Have Helped in Kirkwood?

After watching a local television station’s interview of City Attorney John Hessel, I couldn’t help but think how he and other victims of Thursday night’s shooting tragedy in Kirkwood, Mo., might have fared better with the help of concealed firearms.

Makeshift Memorial Flowers in Kirkwood

Taking place both outside and inside the St. Louis suburb’s city council building, the senseless shootings by gunman Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton left six people — including the shooter, three city officials and two city police officers — dead and two wounded.

Among the 30 or so gathered in the Kirkwood City Hall meeting room that night, only one trained and qualified person — Officer Tom Ballman — carried a firearm. Had only one other trained person carried a firearm into the meeting that night, the number of dead and wounded might have been greatly reduced. Surprisingly, Kirkwood city laws don’t entirely prevent it!

While Sec. 17-132 (a) of the Kirkwood municipal ordinances prevents ordinary citizens — including even those who’ve completed concealed-carry training and received permits to carry concealed firearms — from carrying concealed weapons into meetings of the Kirkwood City Council, it makes an exception for council members as follows:

…nothing in this subdivision shall preclude a member of the Kirkwood City Council, holding a valid concealed carry endorsement, from carrying a concealed firearm at a meeting of the City Council provided that it is not otherwise prohibited herein. Possession of a firearm in a vehicle on the premises shall not be a criminal offense so long as the firearm is not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises.

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Note: The piece above is not intended to serve as a criticism of any of the innocent victims, including Kirkwood city officials, who’ve suffered so much as a result of the shootings Thursday; rather, it’s intended to serve as an observation about the need to put firearms in the hands of trained, responsible and law-abiding citizens in keeping with the spirit of the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

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To read other posts about the Kirkwood City Hall shootings, click here.

For other gun-related posts on this blog, click on one of the links below:

Video Shows Gun Rights Must Be Preserved

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To learn more about concealed-carry laws and firearms training in Missouri, click here.

8 thoughts on “Might More Firearms Have Helped in Kirkwood?

  1. “Had only one other trained person carried a firearm into the meeting that night, the number of dead and wounded might have been greatly reduced.”

    Sure sounds that way!

    Some years ago, Kinnesaw, Georgia, was experiencing quite a crime wave–burglaries, I think. An ordinance was enacted requiring all citizens to train in correct handling of firearms and to arm themselves. Voila! A huge reduction in the number of burglaries!

  2. Of course, and for every innocent shot by a stranger with a firearm, three thousand innocent children are shot accidently by their parents firearm. The upside is that natural selection will eventually eliminate gun nuts by attrition.

  3. stilletto — Let’s assume for a moment that you’re right about the 3,000 stat you cite above. I received an e-mail from a friend today that explains it: “At a recent rural elementary school meeting in north Florida, Hillary Clinton asked the kids in the audience for total quiet. Then, in the silence, she started to slowly clap her hands, once every few seconds.. Holding the audience in total silence, she said into the microphone, ‘Every time I clap my hands, a child in America dies from gun violence.’ A few seconds went by, then a young voice with a proud southern accent from the front of the crowd pierced the silence, saying,
    “Well, stop clappin, ya stupid b_ _ _ _!”

  4. Yes of course that explains it, in the same way that building a fence around the world’s oceans will keep all the ships from falling off.

  5. Quite the co-incidence, your getting that e-mail just when you needed it, assuming for the moment that you actually received said e-mail.

  6. Stilletto, Do. The. Math.

    The number of accidental shootings in America is somewhere around 400 +/-. That is an order of magnitude less than the 3,000 number you’re touting. Of those 400 +/-, most of those are the result of stupidity, i.e., adults doing something they know they shouldn’t be doing, and most of the victims are adults (either themselves, or their stupid companions who don’t leave immediately when Bobby starts playing with his gun).

    Now, even one accidental shooting is a tragedy, much less if the victim is a child… but compare and contrast the 400 +/- , or even the 15,000 +/- people who either commit suicide or are murdered by others using guns, to the 500,000 +/- folks who manage to avoid being robbed, raped, or killed by pulling a gun and NOT using it.

    The way to fix the problem of 400 accidental shootings is not to sacrifice the half-million folks who save themselves, it is to provide education and then to accept the fact that every benefit has unavoidable costs.

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