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		<title>By: Billly Oblivion</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/04/29/fort-bragg-soldiers-living-in-deplorable-conditions/comment-page-1/#comment-5201</link>
		<dc:creator>Billly Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:

You didn&#039;t hear this back then because there was no &quot;blogosphere&quot;, no Youtube to get the story out. 

Even during Reagan&#039;s presidency the facilities were awful, and grunts always got the short end of the stick. 

Of course, temporary barracks were the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t hear this back then because there was no &#8220;blogosphere&#8221;, no Youtube to get the story out. </p>
<p>Even during Reagan&#8217;s presidency the facilities were awful, and grunts always got the short end of the stick. </p>
<p>Of course, temporary barracks were the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Billly Oblivion</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/04/29/fort-bragg-soldiers-living-in-deplorable-conditions/comment-page-1/#comment-5200</link>
		<dc:creator>Billly Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex:

This is the condition they *GOT* The barracks in, not the condition after they&#039;d been there a few months. 

The building my Unit *just* moved in to (not barracks, offices) doesn&#039;t have enough power to run our equipment, and we can&#039;t *get* more power because the building has been condemned. 

Yeah, the building we *just* moved in to (well 18 months ago) was condemned before we moved in. 

There are things the military has to spend money on, and there are things that are complete wastes of taxpayer money. Things like some of the new ships the navy is building, they start building the boat, THEN start redoing the plans for the boat wasting tens of millions of dollars in the process.  This serves no military purpose, but flows lots of money to contractors (like the ones many retired officers work for). 

I&#039;m not against this war. I&#039;ve been part of the military on and off since I was 18 years old (over 20 years ago). I love my country and I want nothing best for my fellow soldiers.

Lt Col Rex, to blame the soldiers for this is an act unbecoming an officer. 

You remind me of that prick XO I had when I was a marine 20 years ago. Used to go into the  drains with a clothes hanger looking for crud. Drains that were screwed and we weren&#039;t supposed to remove.  Yeah, it need to be kept clean--the drain in the shower was horribly designed, but you do NOT put junior troops in the position of having to disobey one order to obey another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex:</p>
<p>This is the condition they *GOT* The barracks in, not the condition after they&#8217;d been there a few months. </p>
<p>The building my Unit *just* moved in to (not barracks, offices) doesn&#8217;t have enough power to run our equipment, and we can&#8217;t *get* more power because the building has been condemned. </p>
<p>Yeah, the building we *just* moved in to (well 18 months ago) was condemned before we moved in. </p>
<p>There are things the military has to spend money on, and there are things that are complete wastes of taxpayer money. Things like some of the new ships the navy is building, they start building the boat, THEN start redoing the plans for the boat wasting tens of millions of dollars in the process.  This serves no military purpose, but flows lots of money to contractors (like the ones many retired officers work for). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against this war. I&#8217;ve been part of the military on and off since I was 18 years old (over 20 years ago). I love my country and I want nothing best for my fellow soldiers.</p>
<p>Lt Col Rex, to blame the soldiers for this is an act unbecoming an officer. </p>
<p>You remind me of that prick XO I had when I was a marine 20 years ago. Used to go into the  drains with a clothes hanger looking for crud. Drains that were screwed and we weren&#8217;t supposed to remove.  Yeah, it need to be kept clean&#8211;the drain in the shower was horribly designed, but you do NOT put junior troops in the position of having to disobey one order to obey another.</p>
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		<title>By: hotoffthepress2</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/04/29/fort-bragg-soldiers-living-in-deplorable-conditions/comment-page-1/#comment-5195</link>
		<dc:creator>hotoffthepress2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard -- This isn&#039;t a Bush-bashing post.  A look at the rest of this blog will convince you I&#039;m not a Bush basher when it comes to Iraq and/or the Global War on Terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8212; This isn&#8217;t a Bush-bashing post.  A look at the rest of this blog will convince you I&#8217;m not a Bush basher when it comes to Iraq and/or the Global War on Terror.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Aubrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Aubrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first night at Benning (OCS) was spent with the others squeegeeing water from a busted crapper on the third floor.  Down the stairs, along the halls, down the stairs, out the door.

It was a good intro to being harassed by tacs for six months.

IOW, don&#039;t mean nothing.  Not a trauma.

Good for bashing the military and, by extension, Bush.  Never heard much of this when Carter and Clinton were prez.  And those facilities were AWFUL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first night at Benning (OCS) was spent with the others squeegeeing water from a busted crapper on the third floor.  Down the stairs, along the halls, down the stairs, out the door.</p>
<p>It was a good intro to being harassed by tacs for six months.</p>
<p>IOW, don&#8217;t mean nothing.  Not a trauma.</p>
<p>Good for bashing the military and, by extension, Bush.  Never heard much of this when Carter and Clinton were prez.  And those facilities were AWFUL.</p>
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		<title>By: Hale Adams</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/04/29/fort-bragg-soldiers-living-in-deplorable-conditions/comment-page-1/#comment-5192</link>
		<dc:creator>Hale Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Air Defense Artillery battery called just such a building &quot;home&quot; at Fort Bliss back in the mid-to-late &#039;80s, though ours was *much* better maintained that the one in the video.  They&#039;re nice enough, all said and done.

But the one in the video....... Hoo boy.....  Someone should get his or her head handed to them over that one.  Maybe it couldn&#039;t be fixed up in time for the arrival of the troops, but whoever &quot;owned&quot; it should have had the common courtesy to inform the soon-to-arrive occupants that the building needed lots of work.  It at least would have allowed the company&#039;s officers and NCOs to requisition the necessary materials and organize work parties.  

A week or so of steady work on the basics (paint-scraping, sweeping, mopping, etc.) by a whole company of men can work a few wonders, and a company of soldiers is going to have at least a few men who know *something* about house-painting and plumbing.

Still, what a &quot;welcome home&quot; present.  Yeesh.

Hale Adams
ex-1LT, AD, USAR
Btry A, 1-65 ADA (HAWK), 11th ADA Bde
Fort Bliss, Texas
1985-88</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Air Defense Artillery battery called just such a building &#8220;home&#8221; at Fort Bliss back in the mid-to-late &#8217;80s, though ours was *much* better maintained that the one in the video.  They&#8217;re nice enough, all said and done.</p>
<p>But the one in the video&#8230;&#8230;. Hoo boy&#8230;..  Someone should get his or her head handed to them over that one.  Maybe it couldn&#8217;t be fixed up in time for the arrival of the troops, but whoever &#8220;owned&#8221; it should have had the common courtesy to inform the soon-to-arrive occupants that the building needed lots of work.  It at least would have allowed the company&#8217;s officers and NCOs to requisition the necessary materials and organize work parties.  </p>
<p>A week or so of steady work on the basics (paint-scraping, sweeping, mopping, etc.) by a whole company of men can work a few wonders, and a company of soldiers is going to have at least a few men who know *something* about house-painting and plumbing.</p>
<p>Still, what a &#8220;welcome home&#8221; present.  Yeesh.</p>
<p>Hale Adams<br />
ex-1LT, AD, USAR<br />
Btry A, 1-65 ADA (HAWK), 11th ADA Bde<br />
Fort Bliss, Texas<br />
1985-88</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an old saying - that what doesn&#039;t get inspected, doesn&#039;t get done.

1  - leadership problem. Both garrison and commander to allow the barracks to deteriorate and be in this condition upon return.    No excuse that no one in the chain went down there to check. How about taking the command chain and making them camp out on the parade ground till it meets standards that wouldn&#039;t meet condemnation status in most communities. 

2. The shift from eternal duty details to using troops as soldiers meant someone had to perform maintenance on these buildings. Most likely DEH who&#039;s outsourced the function as a &#039;cost and personnel savings&#039; initiative. This is what happens when funding for &#039;outsourcing&#039; drys up. Still not an excuse. 

3. Thanks for &#039;in the old Army&#039; comments, but this isn&#039;t the old Army. You want to keep expensively trained and experienced soldiers, you don&#039;t treat them like crap.  When they leave, they&#039;ll let their buds know what awaits them in any possible ventures in the service and its not fun, travel and adventure.  A troop remembers his first day and last day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an old saying &#8211; that what doesn&#8217;t get inspected, doesn&#8217;t get done.</p>
<p>1  &#8211; leadership problem. Both garrison and commander to allow the barracks to deteriorate and be in this condition upon return.    No excuse that no one in the chain went down there to check. How about taking the command chain and making them camp out on the parade ground till it meets standards that wouldn&#8217;t meet condemnation status in most communities. </p>
<p>2. The shift from eternal duty details to using troops as soldiers meant someone had to perform maintenance on these buildings. Most likely DEH who&#8217;s outsourced the function as a &#8216;cost and personnel savings&#8217; initiative. This is what happens when funding for &#8216;outsourcing&#8217; drys up. Still not an excuse. </p>
<p>3. Thanks for &#8216;in the old Army&#8217; comments, but this isn&#8217;t the old Army. You want to keep expensively trained and experienced soldiers, you don&#8217;t treat them like crap.  When they leave, they&#8217;ll let their buds know what awaits them in any possible ventures in the service and its not fun, travel and adventure.  A troop remembers his first day and last day.</p>
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		<title>By: hotoffthepress2</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotoffthepress2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wlpeak -- I thought about that myself, but hey, the cat is already out of the bag on this deal.  The video had 70,000+ hits on it already when I posted this item.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wlpeak &#8212; I thought about that myself, but hey, the cat is already out of the bag on this deal.  The video had 70,000+ hits on it already when I posted this item.</p>
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		<title>By: wlpeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>wlpeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How embarrassing to be the son of this pompous windbag. What a clueless sheltered life he must have lived.  I wonder what the son would say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How embarrassing to be the son of this pompous windbag. What a clueless sheltered life he must have lived.  I wonder what the son would say?</p>
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		<title>By: PersonFromPorlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>PersonFromPorlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barracks maintenance may be a good way of occupying idle hands but these hands have been busy for quite a while and would probably appreciate the *courtesy* of a ready-made place to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barracks maintenance may be a good way of occupying idle hands but these hands have been busy for quite a while and would probably appreciate the *courtesy* of a ready-made place to live.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Fort Bragg Soldiers Living in Deplorable Conditions NoisyRoom.net: Courage is the price that Life exacts for granting peace. Amelia Earhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Fort Bragg Soldiers Living in Deplorable Conditions NoisyRoom.net: Courage is the price that Life exacts for granting peace. Amelia Earhart</dc:creator>
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