Bob McCarty Writes

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• 1 Denise-Mary // Aug 23, 2008 at 11:51 am

  Some posters refer to a “lack of sources” cited in the Complaint. The sources will be introduced during the discovery phase of the litigation, consisting of sworn affidavits or depositions. Berg is not required to “show his hand” when filing the Complaint – only to show that good cause exists for the allegations made and that the relief sought from the Federal Court is valid. So, don’t despair:) – this is simply how lawsuits progress. Unfortunately, my guess is that the Obama folks will request that the case be sealed from public scrutiny.

• 2 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 23, 2008 at 11:53 am

  Denise-Mary — Thanks for the insight. Keep me informed if you learn anything new and newsworthy.

• 3 Anee // Aug 23, 2008 at 12:47 pm

  Ha — the truth about the real Soetoro is finally coming out.
  The Biden VP was payback for the arrest of Larry Sinclair (Soetoro’s gay lover) by Biden’s son AG.
  Here is the link:
  http://larrysinclairbarackobama.com

  Think this might make it into one of McCain’s ads or a nice 527?

  Biden is the only fool who would board Soetoro’s ship of fools.

• 4 Oregon4Obama // Aug 23, 2008 at 1:06 pm

  thanks for the info, i think

  Obama is a “natural born” citizen from Hawaii….going to another country for a couple of years doesnt strip a person of that right…..

  Now, Gov. Schwartzenegger could not be prez…

  speaking of “natural born” wasnt mccain brought up on this stuff too for being born in the virgin islands???

  cheers

• 5 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 23, 2008 at 1:08 pm

  Oregon4Obama — Read some of my previous posts about Obama’s birth certificate (albeit a forged on), then you might reconsider your support of him.

• 6 ztormtra // Aug 23, 2008 at 1:52 pm

  Oregon4Obama – McCain was born of 2 US Citizens on a US Miliatry Base (for all legal purposes US Soil) & his father was in the miliatary.

  Please check your facts before posting.

• 7 Denise-Mary // Aug 23, 2008 at 5:51 pm

  “Obama is a “natural born” citizen from Hawaii….going to another country for a couple of years doesnt strip a person of that right…..”

  Oregon4Obama: your allegation – not fact – is the subject of Berg’s recently-filed suit in Federal Court, except of course Berg takes the opposing viewpoint. Having worked in the legal profession for three decades, I can assure you that no attorney who values his reputation would proceed with a frivolous suit . S/he would ALREADY HAVE IN HAND THE FACTS TO BACK UP HIS /HER ASSERTIONS. Bear in mind we’re not talking “small claims court” here, but a Federal Court venue where “fools are not suffered gladly.” You may wish to refrain from further opining on Obama’s citizenship unless you yourself have bona fide proof that he meets the most basic Constitutional requirement to be CIC. And the copy of his COLB on his website does NOT constitute “bona fide proof.”

• 8 earl // Aug 23, 2008 at 8:37 pm

  My nephew was born in Germany while my brother was stationed their in 1979. We kidded him that he would not have to worry about his son being president. We knew about the constitution provinsions then.
  I think the FEC should be held accountable for their failure to ensure qualifications of future presidents. As far as I am concerned both canidates should be thrown out of the race.

• 9 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 23, 2008 at 8:40 pm

  Earl — McCain is a legal citizen as he was born in the Panama Canal Zone to American parents working there as assigned by the military. Only Obama cannot prove he’s a legal citizen — at least he won’t provide a valid birth certificate.

• 10 JADE // Aug 24, 2008 at 12:42 am

  The interviewer really does not understand the constitution nor why the it frames who should be eligible for president due to loyalties not to the United States but to foreign nations. Obama more thank likely is not a natural citizen, his loyalties do lie elsewhere on only has to read the investigative reports on the London Times Online.

  The Interviewer also does not understand Law school applications, you must disclose all names even as a child that you school records list, any omission be it academic records regardless of age, as well as tickets, etc, must be completed when applying not only to law school to in application to the bar. To omit or altar any information on you either can be grounds for disbarment.

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• 11 Michael // Aug 24, 2008 at 12:45 am

  Berg vs. Obama Lawsuit.
  Philip J. Berg, an attorney and self-professed Hillary Clinton supporter who has filed a lawsuit against Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee, and several other parties. Berg contends that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and, therefore, is not constitutionally eligible to run for the office of president.

  According to Berg, Obama was born in Kenya and then a week later flown back to Hawaii where a certificate of live birth was filed (view certificate on website). Berg claims the birth record initially posted on the Obama campaign website is a forgery based on his half-sister’s certificate. Berg also noted that Obama would have lost any American citizenship status he had when he moved to Indonesia with his mother and was adopted by his step-father.

  Berg presented other arguments to support his case, but believes the Republican party has even more evidence and will use it to discredit Obama after he receives the Democratic nomination. Berg said journalist Wayne Madsen published an article about a GOP research team that was sent to Kenya and has located a certificate registering the birth of a boy named “Barack Obama, Jr.” to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen.

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• 12 Michael // Aug 24, 2008 at 12:50 am

  Oregon4Obama – can you chew gum and walk. McCain born in Panama, parent was a diplomat. Completely different thing from Obama. Obama birth in Hawaii can not be verified, he is asked to turn over the papers in discovery about Birth Records, school records, adoption records and records where he re-entered the U.S. Also to provide his half sisters birth records for comparison. I wish Obama people would learn to to some real reading fo a change, maybe read the London Times Online about Obama. Or talke to one of us from Southern Illinois where Obama has done nothing–repeat nothing for his states citizens.

• 13 CLR // Aug 24, 2008 at 1:16 am

  AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE THE KNOW! SUPPORTERS OF OBAMA–YOU SHOULD WANT TO KNOW FOR SURE. IF YOU WERE MARRIED TO SOMEONE WHO CHEATED, TOOK ALL YOUR MONEY AND LIED TO YOU, WON’T YOU WANT TO KNOW!

  Berg vs. Obama Lawsuit.
  Philip J. Berg, an attorney and self-professed Hillary Clinton supporter who has filed a lawsuit against Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee, and several other parties. Berg contends that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and, therefore, is not constitutionally eligible to run for the office of president.

  According to Berg, Obama was born in Kenya and then a week later flown back to Hawaii where a certificate of live birth was filed (view certificate on website). Berg claims the birth record initially posted on the Obama campaign website is a forgery based on his half-sister’s certificate. Berg also noted that Obama would have lost any American citizenship status he had when he moved to Indonesia with his mother and was adopted by his step-father.

  Berg presented other arguments to support his case, but believes the Republican party has even more evidence and will use it to discredit Obama after he receives the Democratic nomination. Berg said journalist Wayne Madsen published an article about a GOP research team that was sent to Kenya and has located a certificate registering the birth of a boy named “Barack Obama, Jr.” to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen.

  Philip J. Berg, Esq. Files Federal Lawsuit Requesting Obama Be Removed as a Candidate as he does not meet the Qualifications for President
  Thursday, 21 August 2008 22:09 administrator For Immediate Release: – 08/21/08

  Suit filed 08/21/08, No. 08-cv-4083
  Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.

  (Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court today, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States. Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States.“Eighteen million Democratic Primary voters donated money, volunteered their time and energy, worked very hard and then not only supported Senator Clinton, but voted for her and often recruited other supporters as well. All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing because this man lied and cheated his way into a
  Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in his lawsuit that Senator Obama:

  1. Is not a natural-born citizen; and/or

  2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or

  3. Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

  Berg stated: “I filed this action at this time to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.

  There have been numerous questions raised about Obama’s background with no satisfactory answers. The questions that I have addressed include, but are not limited to:

  1. Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada; or ?

  2. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?

  3. What was the early childhood of Obama in Hawaii; in Kenya; in Indonesia when he was adopted; and later, back to Hawaii?

  4. An explanation as to the various names utilized by Obama that include: Barack Hussein Obama; Barry Soetoro; Barry Obama; Barack Dunham; and Barry Dunham.

  5. Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.

  If Obama can prove U.S. citizenship, we still have the issue of muti-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegance to other countries.

  Berg continued:

  fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process and the supporters of their citizen choice for the nomination.

  Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Senator Obama's lies and obfuscations. He clearly shows a conscience of guilt by his actions in using the forged birth certificate and the lies he's told to cover his loss of citizenship. We believe he does know, supported this belief by his actions in hiding his

  secret, in that he failed to regain his citizenship and used documents to further his position as a natural born citizen. We would also show he proclaims himself a Constitutional scholar and lecturer, but did not learn he had no eligibility to become President except by means of lying, obfuscations and deceptions. His very acts proves he knew he was no longer a natural born citizen. We believe he knew he was defrauding the country or else why use the forged birth certificate of his half sister?

  Americans lost money, goods and services donated in their support of a candidate who supposedly was a natural born citizen simply because the DNC officers and party leaders looked the other way and did not demand credentials to answer the questions and prove whether or not Senator Obama was a legitimately natural born citizen, even in light of recent information that has surfaced on websites on the Internet suggesting Senator Obama may not be eligible to become President and questioning his status of multiple citizenships and questionable loyalties! If the DNC officers and.or leaders had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship through an oath of allegiance at age eighteen [18] as prescribed by Constitutional laws!

  The injunctrive relief must be granted because failing to do so, this inaction defrauds everyone who voted in the Democratic Primary for a nominee that is a fair representation of the voters. Failure to grant injunctive relief would allow a corrupted, fraudulent nomination process to continue. It not only allows, but promotes an overwhelming degree of disrespect and creates such a lack of confidence in voters of the primary process itself, so that it would cement a prevailing belief that no potential candidate has to obey the laws of this country, respect our election process, follow the Constitution, or even suffer any consequence for lying and defrauding voters to get onto the ballot when they have no chance of serving if they fraudulently manage to get elected! It is unfair to the country for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of their ability to serve if elected.

  All judges are lawyers and held to a higher standard of practice than a regular lawyer. It is this Judicial standard that demands injunctive relief prayed for here. This relief is predicated upon one of the most basic premises of practicing law which states no lawyer can allow themselves to be used in furthering a criminal enterprise. And by that gauge alone, failing to give injunctive relief to the 18 million supporters of the other candidate, a true natural born citizen eligible to serve if elected, this court must not allow itself to be used to further the criminal and fraudulent acts to continue and be rewarded by becoming the Democratic Nominee. Failure to give the injunctive relief prayed for will insure that a corrupted Presidential election process will only guarantee a show of unfair preference of one group of people over another group by not demanding the same rules be applied to all groups equally and fairly, especially in light of the fact that both candidates are each considered a minority.

  Philip J. Berg, Esquire
  555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
  Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
  Cell (610) 662-3005
  (610) 825-3134
  (800) 993-PHIL [7445]
  Fax (610) 834-7659

• 14 Jack Eargle // Aug 24, 2008 at 11:18 am

  I wonder what nation issued his passport to go to Indonesia and what country issued his passprot to return to the US.

• 15 brenda castle // Aug 24, 2008 at 3:56 pm

  finally!! i wrote a letter to th Washington Post june 13, 2008 which pretty much stated the case you have ,but not officially. If Americans would take a few minutes away from Hero worship and read up on their idol, we wouldn’t be so close to making the biggest mistake of our Country’s recent history! I look forward to the rightful candidate receiveing her due…Hillary Clinton rules!

• 16 Wayne Irwin // Aug 25, 2008 at 9:49 am

  300 million americans (most of them legal citizens) and our media and politicians can only offer us Obama and McCain.Pitiful!

• 17 L. M. Morrison // Aug 25, 2008 at 10:38 am

  To me, this is sad. It really shows how much we have gotten away from the Christian principals our nation was built on. First we elected Nixon, a Republican who deserved to be and was removed from office. Then we elected a draft-dodger with no morals who just about destroyed our military. He was elected because Bush, Sr. refused to go negative in his campaign. The demo’s would not remove him from office because he was one of their own. He and Hillary made a mockery of the White House and everything that represented the U.S.A. Now we are close to electing a non-citizen. I hope we wake up before God wakes us up. No “Christian” nation in the past has ever lasted after turning their backs on God. We will be no different.

• 18 JoAnn S // Aug 25, 2008 at 7:23 pm

  According to the Berg suit, when Obama traveled to Pakistan at age 20, he was traveling on an Indonesian passport, not a US passport. He could only hold an Indonesian passport if he was a citizen of Indonesia.

  He became an Indonesian citizen when his mother married there and became a naturalized citizen; in order to regain his US citizenship, he needed to take the Oath of Allegience when he turned 18. Since he was still traveling on an Indonesian passport at age 20, he didn’t do that.

  It also alleges that records and family members claim that his mother went to Kenya and was not allowed to board a return flight because of her advancted pregnancy. She had her baby and returned to Hawaii a week or so later to register his birth.

  According to other reports, the GOP sent investigators to Mombaso Kenya who found a copy of his birth certificate at Maternity Hospital. His grandmother and step-sibs claimed to be present at his birth.

• 19 JoAnn S // Aug 25, 2008 at 7:24 pm

  So WHY is the media ignoring this lawsuit???

• 20 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 25, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  JoAnn S — A question for the ages.

• 21 Billy B. // Aug 26, 2008 at 6:33 am

  No one wants to listen to me! Hawaii is NOT a legal state of the United States of America! And Bill and Hillary know that, because it is Bill, while he was president, that signed the apology to Hawaii for overthrowing the Queen of Hawaii.
  Just listen to me and go to:
  http://www.hawaii-nation.org/publawsum.html

  Or just type in alohaquest in Yahoo search.

  Since Hawaii is not a legal state, his birth certificate is not a legal U.S. document, therefore is invalid and makes him a citizen of Hawaii, not the U.S.
  Review United States Public Law 103-150.

• 22 Char Meyers // Aug 26, 2008 at 12:27 pm

  Dear Bob,

  I’m so sorry, but I tho’t you might be interested in seeing the following websites with info re: the Obama Citizen or Not lawsuit.

  http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/06/is_barack_obama
  _a_us_citizen_y.html

  http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

  Too bad, so sorry! : p
  Char

• 23 Julie W // Aug 26, 2008 at 12:48 pm

  Why isn’t the media covering this? They are part of the whole hero-worship cult that is going on! WAKE UP people! Hillary Clinton should’ve been the democratic choice, and the US President, from the start! It’s as if everyone is in some sort of trance. I don’t understand. Thank goodness that Berg is out there, unaffected by the Obama mantra, and is still fighting to make things right. If Obama still gets on the ticket, I’m going to McCain. Not a vote for McCain necessarily, but an absolute vote against Obama.

• 24 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 26, 2008 at 12:51 pm

  Char — Read the posts offered as links in the post above as well as the many Atlas Shrugs articles for which links are offered. If, after reading them, you still believe there’s nothing fishy going on with Obama, then you might need to consider therapy of some sort.

• 25 Henry Melvin // Aug 26, 2008 at 3:33 pm

  I wonder what U white supremacist hope to achieve by this crazy campaign of calumny. If you are bent on getting Hillary Clinton to become the President of the United States, then wait for 4 years and make sure you vote with 2 hands at the primaries, you guys are just bitter losers. get behind the democratic party and stop this childish sulking of yours.

• 26 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 26, 2008 at 3:41 pm

  Henry — You’re just like a liberal, entering this virtual room and engaging in name-calling. I am in no way, shape or form a white supremacist! Instead, I’m a thinking conservative who supports the best candidate for the job. Out of those remaining in the race, McCain is it, regardless of race, sex, age, etc. Now crawl back into your mom’s basement, get out your chalk and don’t come back until you’ve written “I’m sorry” 500 times on the floor of the aforementioned basement.

• 27 Anne // Aug 27, 2008 at 3:19 am

  I don’t understand why this isnt all over the news? can someone explain that please? It should be investigated. Is there any new news on this? Has anyone been served? What does the DNC have to say? What would happen if he is nominated and they find he doesnt qualify because he isnt a natural born citizen? Would McCain win by default or could Hillary still get in it? Anyone who can help me with these questions please reach me at annemarie5928@aol.com

• 28 Franz Kindler // Aug 28, 2008 at 10:58 am

  Well, isn’t this just all in keeping with the Democrap party’s embrace of the hordes of illegal aliens flooding across our borders? Here’s a party that wants open borders and encourages illegal aliens to vote, making a mockery out of our immigration and election laws. If the illegal alien numbers are not enough to get their candidates elected to office, they are now attempting to loosen the laws regarding convicted felons with the help of their operatives in the ACLU and the media. So, why would it surprise anyone that Senator Obama is not a citizen of the U.S. when many noncitizens are favored over citizens by many in the Democrap party, and, unfortunately, some Repugnantcans? As for why this is not being widely covered in the media, it is the same reason as always; they want to bury it. They can’t, however, ignore it forever if there is any truth to the allegations. We shall see what we shall see. Meanwhile, ask yourselves this:
  Do you want to vote for someone who has little or no credibility and experience? Do you want to vote for someone whose worldview is socialist? Do you want to vote for someone whose associations are highly questionable (Yes, birds of a feather do flock together)? Do you want to vote for someone who just sounds eloquent when giving a speech, yet says nothing of substance? Do you actually trust someone who cannot give a direct yes or no answer to a direct question? Are you so infatuated with Senator Obama’s ethnicity that you are willing to ignore the facts and evidence that this man is an inexperienced fraud with socialist and anti-American sentiments and loyalties? Yes, we all know that Senator McCain likes amnesty and open borders too, but McCain is not a socialist ideologue bent on changing America into a socialist hellhole.

• 29 Lorene // Aug 28, 2008 at 1:01 pm

  If Obama was born in Kenya, in order to register his birth in Hawaii, would she not have had to present a document from Kenya before his birth could be registered?
  If so, what kind of document and are the required documents kept on file?

  Does anyone know?

• 30 capejasmine // Aug 29, 2008 at 7:55 am

  Char, it states, since he was born in Hawaii, on snopes, and since that portion of this lawsuit is in question, makes that invalid. It’s already proven, that the birth certificate is fraudulent. They used his half sisters’ birth certificate. I’m pretty sure right there, that a law was probably broken.

  Thus the lawsuit.

  Why would his paternal grandmother lie about being in attendance at his birth? No valid birth certificate from Hawaii has come forward. They can’t even say which hospital. I could drive you right up to the hospital where I was born.

  Isn’t the fact that the questions of Kenya, and Indonesia enough, to cast some doubts on this man?

  If not…then I think to many are voting for him, because of the image this man portrays, and not the issues, or ideas he stands on. Very scary.

• 31 GAIL HEDGLIN // Aug 29, 2008 at 3:33 pm

  PLEASE ALL HELP PASS ALL INFO ON SO WE STOP OBAMA OR WE WILL ALL BE SORRY,
  HE IS A LIEING BLACK MUSLIN OUT TO GET US ALL

• 32 Slade // Aug 29, 2008 at 8:12 pm

  Interesting. John McCain was born in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone in which children born to US personnel were not considered citizens until 1953. There may be some merit to the McCain argument as well so it looks as though we have two illegal candidates.

• 33 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 29, 2008 at 8:18 pm

  Slade — What’s the 1953 law you’re citing?

• 34 Slade // Aug 29, 2008 at 8:41 pm

  Title 8, Section 1403 of the United States Code grants citizenship to those born in the Canal Actually much like the Hawaiian issue (Hawaii was accepted when Obama was born) Title 8 section 1403 passed in 1953 acted retroactively so anyone born after 1904 in the Canal Zone is recognized as a citizen as long as one parent is a US citizen so really I was wrong. I did not know if the law was retro before.

  Really to defeat this all Obama has to do is prove he was recognized by Hawaii and then he would be covered regardless of his parents situation. Dual citizenship might change things but the first two issues can be resolved. I would be amazed to see a candidate get to the Senate and then make such a hard run for the presidency if they knew he wasn’t eligible.

  The Dems have been known to attack opponents in the courts before so this might be another attempt but we’ll see.

• 35 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 29, 2008 at 8:43 pm

  Slade — I think the only thing Obama has to do to settle the matter of his citizenship is produce an authentic certificate of live birth (i.e., “birth certificate”). Until he does, questions will remain.

• 36 Slade // Aug 29, 2008 at 8:56 pm

  The problems are this really.

  1. He was adopted meaning his original BC are either sealed and/or confusing because of adoption regulations. The ambiguity of the American law dictating citizenship pertaining to eligibility of POTUS has no wording to interpret this measure.

  2. Obama’s US citizenship can be contested in Indonesia and/or Kenya based on their laws. However this is America so their laws don’t mean anything. If Indoneasia does not recognize Obama’s US citizenship it doesn’t mean anything here unless the U.S. ceases to recognize it as well.

  It’s all very tricky and as someone who was adopted he may not have his original BC at all. My best friend adopted a child from Russia and they have a U.S. BC for their child even though he is a dual Russian/U.S. citizen.

  So ultimately if the U.S. recognizes Obama as a naturalized citizen then thats all that matters. Had he not been adopted this would probably all be much clearer.

• 37 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 29, 2008 at 9:17 pm

  Slade — Obama wasn’t adopted. His birth father died and his mother remarried, but she didn’t die until much later. That means the birth certificate shouldn’t be an issue.

• 38 Slade // Aug 29, 2008 at 9:30 pm

  “Soetoro is the name on Obama’s Birth Certificate (BC) because a new BC was issued when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, his step-father. His original BC, which we assume was issued for Barack Hussein Obama at birth, would have been sealed at the time of the adoption.

  Barry Soetoro probably acquired Indonesian citizenship in approximately 1965-1966, and may still hold it. He possibly changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama as an older child, teenager, or adult, possibly never did – but even if he did, this procedure would not result in a change to the BC. (If he never legally changed his name back, I imagine his current name on the Presidential ballot would be invalid.)”

  So yes he was adopted by his step father.

• 39 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 29, 2008 at 9:34 pm

  Slade — If his original birth certificate was sealed, why did his campaign provide Daily Kos with a document purported to be his original birth certificate — a document proven to be a fraud [ See this post for more details. ]

• 40 Slade // Aug 29, 2008 at 10:03 pm

  So if Techdude and his profanity laden report are to be believed then there is nothing to worry about. Since forging of a Birth Certificate is a Federal offense then clearly the U.S. Government and their offices should be able to prove so much easier than the Dude’s own analysis and Obama should go to jail.

  In fact this brings about more issue because Obama needs to provide a valid BC for a US passport which he has clearly done so if this is in fact a fraud then the entire Passport application process is now in question because a popular public figure was able to defraud them.

  Techdude’s analysis hardly proves the BC is a fraud for obvious reasons. How the heck do we know he is at all an expert? he remains anonymous to the public using an alias and the experts of those involved in the creation of the BC would not speak to him.

  More tot he point of reality is if this random person managed to crack the conspiracy then clearly the authorities should be doing the same research and acting appropriately. I would wager it would behoove McCain to see his opponent go to jail over fraud during an election he may have trouble winning.

• 41 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 30, 2008 at 6:37 am

  Slade — First of all, Techdude’s report isn’t profanity-laden. As for the rest of your comment (this one and two others which I’m not going to publish), I’m convinced that you’re a disinformation specialist who’s working for the Obama camp on a mission is to try to make this issue go away. If I’m wrong, I apologize. Still, I’m not going to publish any more novel-length comments about this post. Thanks!

• 42 Slade // Aug 30, 2008 at 7:49 am

  HAHAHAHA thanks for the good laugh. Ignorance is still a privilege so have at it. Keep on ignoring all the facts that directly debunk this conspiracy that even McCain supporters are ignoring.

  Is posting facts of a subject in question that are backed up by multiple sources “disinformation”?

  You are the one guilty of disinformation when you claim that Techdude’s annonymous accusations which are not accepted by National authorities as “proof his BC is fraud.”

  By this logic I can prove that George W. Bush was behind 9/11 or that the Kool Aid man is really the Easter Bunny…

  Why won’t you acknowledge the glaring facts like why has several authorities fromthe Hawaiian department of Health confirmed the images authenticity or the actual handling of his BC by other sources?

  You seem so intent to believe, incorrectly, that I am some Obama plant, when your obvious refusal to acknowledge all the facts lead me to believe you are willingly remaining ignorant because you cannot possibly think rationally about a non-Republican/Conservative/whatever.

  I must assume then that this website is just another 24 campaign for whatever Republican happens to be in line regardless of whatever they stand for.

  You seem so intent to post multiple links to sources supporting your opinion yet clearly have no desire to cross reference your opinions and or information to problematic sources and facts debunking this theory.

  But again, Ignorance is bliss I suppose…

• 43 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 30, 2008 at 7:51 am

  Slade — I’m glad you got that off your chest. Hope you feel better. Have a great weekend!

• 44 jon // Sep 2, 2008 at 4:25 pm

  anyone remember ron paul saying he would axe the income tax because it was not legal?

  why hasn’ytanyone asked any questions about this to the candidates?

  eliminating the irs tax on employee income would help out citizens.

• 45 Jeff // Sep 3, 2008 at 8:57 am

  Until the news about his birth/or non birth has come to the attention, I had fit all other pieces together except for one major fact. Place of birth just did not fit. Now it all makes sense. I am a stern supporter of McCain now that he has a real Republican on his ticket, Palin would be fabulous as President or VP.

  As far as the first comment, Obama will be President as it has already been written. The part that did not fit was the place of birth, a good looking, well spoken, articulate man of middle eastern desent, will emrbace the world and everyone will love him, on and on, we all know the story.

  Truth of the matter is that after 3 1/2 years there will not be another election as he will make the REAL CHANGE and so it begins.

  May God Bless us and keep us, and may the rapture come soon so we all can rest easy in the knowledge that we will not have to be here to see it.

• 46 Hoboandchannysmommy // Sep 3, 2008 at 10:01 am

  Obama taught Constitutional Law!

  Enough Said! He better than all the canidates an any idiot bloggers knows the rules of the constitution.

• 47 hotoffthepress2 // Sep 3, 2008 at 10:06 am

  Hobo — And, perhaps, he knows best how to circumvent the law — and get away with it!

• 48 Slade // Sep 4, 2008 at 1:31 pm

  Jon-

  The problem with Ron Paul’s position is that it would mean that Republicans and Democrats would actually have to work for a living and actually cut the bloated corrupt Federal budget immensely to do so.

  Ron Paul is a true Conservative and he speaks the truth. How are Dems and republicans going to siphon tax dollars to their big business buddies and special interest donors if they can be held accountable for how they spend?

  How can Dems and Republicans enact un-constitutional policies to spy and control their citizens all the while establishing an Aristocracy in a Democratic nation?

  How can Dems and Republicans work together on creating big government loyal only to the major Corporations if they do not collect income taxes?

  No, Dems and Reps can’t do the right thing, like cutting pork and lowering taxes to boost the economy, when the game is so beneficial for them to keep it the same.

  And why should they care when modern campaigns hinge on such lame personal attack like we see here? Obama’s BC is a forgery. George Bush’s or John Kerry’s military services are shams, George Bush hates black people, etc…

  As long as everyone is tied up the political marketing machine playing one side against the other there is no real accountability for them to enact any real change at all.

  McCain has been boasting major reforms for ages yet he stood with Bush for the past 8 years kissing and hugging him after Bush’s camp smeared him in the campaigns with outright lies. Now he claims Washington is broken and serious things need to change. What? What the heck have you been doing for the past 8 years? Why talk about how wonderful Bush is if he was wrecking Washington?

  Obama preaches change too. He promises to cut pork, reduce spending, fix failed treaties like NAFTA and other broken policies. He aims to fix Healthcare, education, and campaign financing, while promoting more funds for alternative energy, more funds for existing energies, more funds for job friendly American companies, tax breaks for responsible companies, etc and he hasn’t shown a single way to pay for it. McCain makes very similar claims with slightly better ideas of how to pay for it but history already has shown McCain could not enact his policies while he was in the Senate. Will he magically get them across a Democratic House and Senate now?

  Neither offers a plan to fund their proposals and Obama’s is full of flat out taxation mistakes.

  No accountability. Let’s just talk about his forged birth Certificate and call him a Muslim. Thats productive even after the Hawaii state DoH confirms his BC is valid and even at the RNC they are talking about Obama’s youth days as a Christian Community leader…

  If the Republican party was the last bastion of true conservative ideals and a party for the average American Ron Paul would have been the nominee. Instead they went with a business as usual kind of guy who will say just about anything to anyone to get elected President. the Republicans have learned to play the same corrupted game that Dems have been on for decades. Good for them I guess. Good for their big business friends and their big tax breaks, subsidies, and unfair advantages over the average bloke. Bad for you and I.

• 49 PA-Pilot // Sep 6, 2008 at 10:19 am

  Slade… Ron Paul? Truth? For someone who claims to be a constitutionalist, he knows less about the constitution than your average 1-st year law student. He is stuck in 1787 and believes that the law today is the same as the law as it was then.

  Income tax is absolutely legal, and the SCOTUS has repeatedly struck down any notion that it is not. There are hundreds upon thousands of constitutional cases that set the precedents that support the SCOTUS decisions, which again are too numerous to list here.

  Ron Paul showed promise, but he’s way too much of a kooky fringe type that lacks any realistic view or interpretation of the way things actually are. He would love to throw us back to 1787, but that is so incredibly impractical, not to mention impossible, and completely inappropriate for our society, and he knows it.

  As far as Obama is concerned, notwithstanding the fact that he will destroy this country within his first term, it’s sad that it takes people digging up technicalities like this to prevent such disasters. If we were a society of well-educated people, we would never elect these Socialist types. But, people who are not willing to carry their own weight have too much of an interest in making everyone else carry them.

  Sad indeed.

• 50 Terri // Sep 6, 2008 at 1:52 pm

  Will McCain supporters read this? Unlikely. But here’s more proof that this lawsuit is frivilous and only to try to cast more doubt on Obama.

  Source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

  Obama’s birth certificate: Final chapter

  By Amy Hollyfield
  Published on Friday, June 27th, 2008 at 05:21 p.m.

  SUMMARY: Since we published Obama’s birth certificate, questions about its authenticity have been frequent and fierce. After reviewing the evidence, we’re confident in our rulings.

  It started as a whisper, a trickle of nagging doubt.

  “As a concerned citizen, I’m wondering if there isn’t something fishy going on with the Obama certificate.”

  “I have serious doubts about the purported ‘birth certificate’ you were sent.”

  “Something doesn’t smell right.”

  Soon, e-mails and blog posts were flying. As the pace quickened, the tone sharpened.

  “You should be apologizing … for your misinformation regarding BO bogus birth certificate, that you claimed was genuine!”

  At full throttle, the accusations are explosive and unrelenting, the writers emboldened by the anonymity and reach of the Internet.

  And you can’t help but ask: How do you prove something to people who come to the facts believing, out of fear or hatred or maybe just partisanship, that they’re being tricked?

  • • •

  Sen. Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a document PolitiFact.com had sought for months. Countless chain e-mails, seeking to paint him as a secret Muslim, speculated that his full name included Muhammed (or Mohammed). Some said he is not an American citizen.

  Birth Certificate

  As a fact-checking news Web site, we went to extensive lengths to sort out the truth. We got a copy of his 1992 marriage certificate from the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics. His driver’s license record from the Illinois Secretary of State’s office. His registration and disciplinary record with the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois. Not to mention all of his property records.

  Not one of these documents shows a Muhammed (or Mohammed) in Obama’s name. They all read “Barack H. Obama” or “Barack Hussein Obama.”

  The ultimate document we sought was Obama’s birth certificate. Unlike the other documents, Hawaii birth certificates aren’t public record. Only family members can request copies, so when the campaign declined to give us one, we were stalled.

  On June 13, 2008, Obama’s campaign finally released a copy, while launching a fact-check Web site of its own, Fightthesmears.com. The site is a direct response to allegations about Obama that won’t go away: He’s Muslim. He took the oath of office on a Koran. He refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance. PolitiFact has researched all of these accusations and none of them are true.

  When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.

  “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us.

  Then the firestorm started.

  • Where is the embossed seal and the registrar’s signature?

  • Comparing it to other Hawaii birth certificates, the color shade is different.

  • Isn’t the date stamp bleeding through the back of the document “June 2007?” (Odd since it was supposedly released in June 2008.)

  • There’s no crease from being folded and mailed.

  • It’s clearly Photoshopped and a wholesale fraud.

  • • •

  At PolitiFact.com, we’re all about original sources. We don’t take anyone at their word or take the reporting of other media organizations as proof. We go to the heart of the story, the source of the truth — original, corroborating documents.

  When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers. We circled back to the Department of Health, had a newsroom colleague bring in her own Hawaii birth certificate to see if it looks the same (it’s identical). But every answer triggered more questions.

  And soon enough, after going to every length possible to confirm the birth certificate’s authenticity, you start asking, what is reasonable here?

  Because if this document is forged, then they all are.

  If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

  Sounds like a Vince Flynn novel.

  • • •

  Peter Goelz knows a little something about conspiracy theorists.

  He was managing director of the National Transportation Safety Board in 1996 when TWA Flight 800 crashed off Long Island, killing 230 people. While the NTSB’s investigation found no evidence of sabotage or terrorism, the Internet was stocked with insistent accusations.

  “We were right at the beginning of this Internet lunacy,” Goelz said in an interview with PolitiFact. “And there were a variety of crackpot Web sites and Web commentators that generated all sorts of rumors. The principle one was that TWA in fact was shot down by an errant Navy missile in … a live-fire exercise off the Hamptons.”

  Nine miles off Long Island, in the middle of summer. And then a full-scale coverup by the Navy and all the sailors involved.

  “I am sure that we spent another $10-million, perhaps $20-million, out of a $50-million investigation, to just knock down and put to bed these kinds of rumors, these insidious rumors,” Goelz said. “We felt like we had to answer every question because it was such a public and dreadful and confounding event.”

  Goelz, who is now a communications consultant in Washington, D.C., says the Internet has given a platform to anyone to say anything. And a way to find others who want to hear it.

  “Online, they can be almost anything,” he said. “They can be the crusading investigators that they always wanted to be.”

  • • •

  The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.

  “I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”

  Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.

  And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? “When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.”

  Still, she acknowledges: “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”

  • • •

  And there’s the rub. It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible.

  But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over.

  There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic.

  And that’s true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust.

• 51 hotoffthepress2 // Sep 6, 2008 at 2:12 pm

  Terri — After reading the Politifact.com document and all of the documents referenced in this post and at Atlas Shrugs, I’m sticking with Techdude’s analysis. Politifact did nothing to convince me. Further, the St. Petersburgh Times newspaper with which Politifact.com is associated endorsed John Kerry in 2004, so I think I know on which side their “bread” is buttered.

• 52 DumDums // Sep 9, 2008 at 10:23 am

  Wow, these are such stupid accusations. Here’s the link:

  http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

• 53 hotoffthepress2 // Sep 9, 2008 at 10:38 am

  DumDums — Factcheck.org has no better info, but I encourage readers to check it out, too.

• 54 jazzmanreed // Sep 14, 2008 at 5:54 pm

  Isn’t Factcheck.org affiliated with Ayers and the Annenberg Foundation?

• 55 hotoffthepress2 // Sep 14, 2008 at 6:10 pm

  Jazzmanreed — That wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

• 56 bmatkin // Sep 17, 2008 at 2:11 am

  No bias here. I’m one person who just wants to know. I really don’t care either way, as I am not a U.S. citizen. (probably)(I was adopted also and to a U.S. citizen but I was born in Canada)

  I am always interested in what is really the bottom line and I think that all the evidence needs to go before an unbiased forum.

  The outcome of this election will affect the world, and the world without a vote. So, please be careful to cross the Ts and dot the Is so that a constitutional crisis doesn’t throw the world into a real mess.

  All parties should be diligent in checking the legality of what’s going on. If you can’t see that point of view, I suspect that your desire to elect either McCain or Obama exceeds your loyalty to your country.

• 57 Gordon // Sep 17, 2008 at 7:57 am

  Here, once again, our illustrious “entertainment press” have mis-informed the public in questioning McCain’s citizenship through a mis-information campaign reminiscent of the old Soviet Union. As a retired military officer with over 20 years service, any dependent born to a military member while stationed overseas has rights to U.S. citizenship and is considered a “natural-born” citizen. Bluntly, and let me say this very loudly, IT AIN’T AN ISSUE! However, in some cases the individual also has certain rights to select (or not) citizenship within the country of birth and at age 18 can decide citizenship. But the U.S. State Department recently began recognizing dual citizenship. …and one more thing… Nobody ever questioned McCain’s citizenship when he put his life on the line for this country and endured what he went through in Hanoi. In my view, those who have questioned McCain’s citizenship owe him a huge apology, a debt of gratitude and thanks for doing what you were not willing or capable of doing. I have not made a decision in casting my vote but as an American serviceman, questioning McCain’s citizenship shows America at its worst!

• 58 jon // Sep 17, 2008 at 5:17 pm

  Well, I will vote my heart.

  Ron Paul for PRESEDENT!

  Perhaps in 20 years Americans will wise up.
  In the meantime, I can personally deal with any ‘president’ or new laws..

• 59 Gordon // Sep 18, 2008 at 4:43 am

  Ron Paul….now there’s a Liberal for ya! :-)

• 60 Jerry // Oct 9, 2008 at 5:19 pm

  My so had to show a legitimate birth certificate (with the raised seal, not just a copy) before he could play in the youth Hockey League. How can this BO be allowed to bypass the identification verification process before becoming a candidate for President of the USA? Absolutely incredible, I say check him and if he is not valid: DEPORT him!!!

• 61 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 9, 2008 at 5:24 pm

  Jerry — Great idea!

• 62 Concerned // Oct 10, 2008 at 1:54 am

  Hello,

  Does anyone have an update on this lawsuit, or know of a way to follow it more closely? I am anxious to see something come of it.

• 63 You Have to Be Kidding // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:13 pm

  “Having worked in the legal profession for three decades, I can assure you that no attorney who values his reputation would proceed with a frivolous suit.”

  Are you serious? The legal system is filled with frivolous law suits, many presented if for nothing else but to draw attention to a cause, or get someone’s name in the press. In the case of this suit, I suspect that Berg’s intent is to create doubt about Sen. Obama in an effort to sway voters to not elect him, and also get his name in the press – again.

  As a matter of fact, it wouldn’t be the first time for Philip Berg:

  http://www.911forthetruth.com/index.htm

  He filed law suits in support of 911 Conspiracy theories. And you guys actually think he has a credible case against Obama?

  Wake up, people. A candidate wouldn’t be allowed to run if there were doubts about his citizenship. And he certainly wouldn’t have made it to the last month before election day. There are people with much more power, money, influence and resources than even Philip Berg trying to find dirt on the man, including the sitting Republican administration, and we all know they’d ignore any law that opposes them finding it. Every minute of Obama’s life has been scrutinized in an effort to find dirt. If this hasn’t already come out, it’s because there’s no substance to it.

• 64 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:16 pm

  Kidding — Hope you didn’t pay too much for those rose-colored glasses. Forget 9/11 conspiracies; Obama can clear things up simply by producing a legitimate birth certificate. Simple.

• 65 Huh? // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:03 pm

  HotOffthePress, he already did. Sorry if it doesn’t provide you with the dirt you were looking for. It combined with the certain investigation the government has done into his background was good enough to get him this far, and into the White House.

  Have you ever been through a security clearance investigation? You don’t think they did one for him? You don’t think this wouldn’t come out in it? And I’m the one with rose-colored glasses? Please.

• 66 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:08 pm

  Huh? — I have been through a background investigation for a security clearance. Obama, on the other hand, surely did not. After all, he would have had to justify his trip to Pakistan during the ’80s when the country was pretty much closed to Westerners. Bet he can’t explain that one.

• 67 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:11 pm

  In case anyone’s interested, “You Have to Be Kidding” and “Huh?” are the same person. Just can’t make up his mind who he wants to be. Kind of like Obama.

• 68 Huh? // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:03 pm

  Funny, I think Obama has been pretty clear on who he is. McCain is the one who can’t really decide what he thinks or who he is in this campaign. He’s been the ever morphing McCain this past month. Just this week, they put on a filthy smear campaign and incited their base to a frenzy. Then when they realize the undecided voters don’t buy the huge stretches of the truth their trying to sell, and are turned off by the rabid frenzy it’s inciting in the Republican base, McCain claims today that Obama is a respectable family man that he only disagrees with on policy.

  And despite declaring that the gloves were off and he was going to take it to him, why couldn’t McCain confront Obama about Ayers directly at the debate? Because he knows they’re just unfounded smears that are a huge stretch of the truth.

• 69 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:05 pm

  Huh? — You sound like an Obama employee/volunteer. In fact, I bet you’re working for ACORN. What a bunch of nuts!

• 70 Huh? // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:37 pm

  No I’m not an Obama employee. Just a citizen that’s sick of the propaganda machine that has been in office for 8 years, and the slime that’s helped them stay there.

• 71 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 11, 2008 at 4:51 am

  So you’re sick of Obama, huh? The Chicago Machine — call in “propaganda machine” if you like — has kept him in office for more than 8 years. Yes, Rezko, Ayers, Daley et al are slime. Glad we can agree on something. Take care!

• 72 scott edwards // Oct 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm

  I have heard on several occasions that Barack Obama is 5% Black/45% Muslim/50% White. And yet he calls himself Black! Are those percentages correct? If so, he’s 9 times more Muslim than Black, and 10 times more White! Do you know the answer to what his actual makeup is?

• 73 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 12, 2008 at 4:58 pm

  scott edwards — I care not a whit whether Obama is black, white or other. I’m more concerned about where his heart and his motives lie, and I believe him to be a danger to this country for numerous reasons outlined in this post and many others on this blog.

• 74 Huh? // Oct 12, 2008 at 6:12 pm

  Yet truth be damned. You’ll post any unsubstantiated claim that paints the man in a negative light, no matter how far fetched, or how far it stretches the truth. I’m surprised you didn’t create another post about his racial makeup. Shocking to see that you have principles.

• 75 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 12, 2008 at 6:14 pm

  Huh? — As I told “scott edwards” above, race has nothing to do with my desire to prevent Obama from winning the White House. Unlike Democrats, I do not play the so-called “race card” on every occasion when my arguments are losing traction.

• 76 Huh? // Oct 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm

  No, you just twist the words of those who debate you, don’t post all of their responses, and don’t actually respond to the points they bring up in disagreement with you, choosing to attack the messenger and not their message.

• 77 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 12, 2008 at 6:41 pm

  Huh? — You’re just sore, because I don’t publish every highly-repetitive comment you submit in this space. Make sense. Be original. Stop whining!

• 78 Huh? // Oct 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm

  I could say the same about you. You post the same unsubstantiated propaganda that every right wing blog on the Internet posts. Thanks for your originality, Bob. And my arguments do make sense. If they don’t, why not debate the arguments I’ve presented? Because it’s a whole lot easier to just dismiss the message and try to paint the messenger incorrectly as an incognito Obama or ACORN employee, a wearer of rose-colored glasses, or bring people into the argument who have nothing to do with this story. Anything else would require an original thought.

• 79 Xenobia // Oct 13, 2008 at 2:36 pm

  Wow, the tinhat brigade is really out in force!

  If there’s a Mombasa Hospital birth certificate showing Barack H. Obama II was born in Kenya, why hasn’t anyone scanned it and posted it to a website?

  People, think. Occam’s Razor obviates against every stupid conspiracy theory you can imagine. Do you know how hard it is to keep a secret between just two people!?

  For crying out loud. There are really important things to worry about and you’re futzing about completely improbable conspiracy theories. Get a life!

• 80 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 13, 2008 at 2:38 pm

  Xenobia — If you think me so strange, what are you doing visiting my blog?

• 81 monoblogue » Blog Archive » Hey, drive-by media, here’s a sex scandal! // Oct 13, 2008 at 7:16 pm

  [...] been less forthcoming. My blogger friend Bob McCarty has been all over this one, beginning with this post of his and culminating with yesterday’s video [...]

• 82 Star King // Oct 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm

  1) The snopes article is a bit dated and relates to an inaccurate description of the situation, which has become a great deal more involved since it was written, the same can be said for the Swamp article.
  2) FactCheck.org has a serious conflict of interest with regard to Obama, the connections can be found on wikipedia, and verified through a little searching of the FactCheck.org website itself.
  3) We seem to have a lot more speculation than actual information here, the following link will take you to the actual court documents:
  http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
  4) The court is asking Obama to produce a small number of documents, which would completely settle this issue with no further ado, but Obama and the DNC have resorted to stonewalling and delaying tactics instead . . . why?
  5) Scares the daylights out of me.

• 83 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 14, 2008 at 5:48 am

  Star King — Thanks for the input.

• 84 surroundedbyidiots // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:52 pm

  Why is it that the opposition to Obama is full of idiots? Did Obama get to all the smart people first or what?

• 85 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:57 pm

  Surrounded…How long did it take you to come up with that one? Or did you borrow it from someone else? A grand example of left-wing intellect.

• 86 johnny // Oct 14, 2008 at 1:39 pm

  I’ve been sending copies of the docs to news agencies.

• 87 mandinkawarrior // Oct 14, 2008 at 1:48 pm

  9/11 Lawsuit
  Berg first came to prominence in May, 2004, when he represented Ellen Mariani, wife of Louis Mariani, in a lawsuit against President Bush, Vice President Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and 55 others under the federal Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations act. Mr. Mariani was killed when United Air Lines flight 175 was flown into the South Tower of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. The lawsuit alleges that the government had foreknowledge of the terrorist attacks and provided no warning. In addition, it claims the government actively covered up evidence after the attack. For instance, Mr. Berg alleged that former Florida Governor Jeb Bush went to the offices of Hoffman Aviation School, took records, and had them flown out of the country on an Air Force plane.

• 88 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 14, 2008 at 1:56 pm

  Aren’t conspiracy theories wonderful. Please, mandinkawarrior, stick with the subject at hand.

• 89 didjahear // Oct 14, 2008 at 2:25 pm

  Has anyone tried searching the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania for the documents that were allegedly filed by Berg? Go to http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/ and search “Philip J. Berg”. Does anyone come up with them? I realize a pdf is available through “Justia.com,” but why not the offical documents through the website of official court in which they were filed?

• 90 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 14, 2008 at 3:06 pm

  didjahear — The courts use services like Justia for this purpose. No need to look elsewhere.

• 91 Bob // Oct 17, 2008 at 9:35 pm

  If Hussein Obama is really an advocate of the people as he professes why doesn’t he pony up real, verifable proof of citizenship?

• 92 Chris // Oct 21, 2008 at 1:31 pm

  Update: Obama and the DNC legally admit to all allegations!

  See http://obamacrimes.com

• 93 Shawn Mosqueda // Oct 21, 2008 at 4:21 pm

  This is an act of TREASON on Obama and the DNC’s part. The Democratic National Party is Obama’s coup.

  I believe that Bill Clinton’s admin started the process of handing the head of the US on the silver platter to the rest of the world, Bush has probably had a part and Obama will finish it. Why else would the Clinton’s give up?

  Obama will cause a civil war and destroy our Constitution/country from the inside out.

• 94 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 21, 2008 at 4:24 pm

  Shawn — Let’s hope you’re wrong for everyone’s sake; otherwise, “Joe the Plumber” types from around the country will have to get together and “flush” out the liberal crap that’s clogging the pipes of freedom and democracy.

• 95 Shawn Mosqueda // Oct 21, 2008 at 4:33 pm

  I just spoke with my senator from my district. He said, “I am not an alarmist, but we are in serious trouble.”

  I was asking him what we can do in regards to this act of TREASON. He said lawsuits have been filed and filing against secretary of states in different sates, could would help.

• 96 Kalakea Pupu // Oct 22, 2008 at 7:32 pm

  On Oct 21 and Oct 22 Berg filed a motion for expedited rulings on his motion to find his request for some 30 admissions be deemed true, due to Obama’s failure to file any responses or denials.

  Berg also filed a request for an expedited hearing and ruling on his motion for summary judgement, therefore winning on all of his allegations and claims.

  Obama’s 11th hour response was to file a motion to dismiss the case which he can’t possibly win in view of triable issues timely filed and served. Obama is trying to stall resolving the admissions (including that Obama was born in Kenya and was adopted by his Indonesian step father and has not applied to re-gain his US citizenship, if he had it at birth.

  In the alternative, if his motions aren’t granted,
  Berg requests the court for an order for Obama
  to produce an authentic long form “vaulted” birth certificate within three days.

  That would be upon his return from Hawaii,
  if granted by the court.

  Berg has turned up the heat on Obama’s rhetoric
  and presents substantial evidence to support his claims. He reasons that all claims would be rendered moot if Obama would simply produce
  his proper birth certificate and citizenship records.

• 97 john in Mo // Oct 23, 2008 at 5:37 pm

  Berg is a crackpot and a lousy attorney. His Complaint in federal court repeatedly recites that it is based on “internet rumors” – it actually says this. A federal suit is required to be based on known facts. Also, Berg filed it knowing full well that 2 prior cases – one involving Bush and Chaneys’ qualifications in 2000 and one involving McCain’s qualifications in 2007 – were thrown out of court because a single citizen doesn’t have legal standing to bring such a claim. It’s already settled law. I suspect the Judge will not only throw this case out, but may well sanction Mr. Berg with a big fine for wasting his and the country’s time.

• 98 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 23, 2008 at 5:41 pm

  John — You’re a big party pooper!

• 99 gaetano // Oct 25, 2008 at 10:06 am

  I am not an attorney but I do know this. A law suite has been filed against Obamma and the elections commision.They were served and given a specific time to answer the suite. By law if you do not answer in the time period given to you an automactic judgement is given. I`ve been there. Obamma loses .he can no longer defend himself against this matter. Every think that he was accused of becomes true, automatically,because he did not answer the suite.Case closed.The defendent attorneys tried to put this off but never filed any answer,hopeing to beat the clock.This could have been nothing If it wasn`t true ,so that should tell you something is wrong in Demark. When this hits the media,Its all over.Obamma faces a lot of charges and so does the democratic party.He might end up in prison or be deported. there has been to much cover up with his past.I truely believe that when this hits, Obamma will commit suiside or be killed for what he knows.
  there is no excuse for this one.Sad but true.

• 100 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 25, 2008 at 10:11 am

  gaetano — My only hope is that he does not get elected. As for your conclusions and predictions, I hope and think you’re wrong. No one deserves that — not even Obama.

• 101 Anchan // Oct 25, 2008 at 10:05 pm

  Actually, the case was thrown out… the Berg’s arguments “frivlolous and not worthy of discussion” and that they “ventured in to the unreasonable”

• 102 Anchan // Oct 25, 2008 at 10:08 pm

  sorry, I don’t know what happened… it was supposed to say that “…the judge called Berg’s arguments…”

  Antway, maybe we can move on to real issues now, but I doubt that the Anti Obama people are going to allow that… they’ve been very good at producing one ridiculous lie after another… can’t wait to what they come up with next.

• 103 Redsoxmaniac // Oct 26, 2008 at 12:47 pm

  The case was thrown out. Lets move on.

  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/10/25/politics/p123706D34.DTL

• 104 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 26, 2008 at 12:56 pm

  Maniac — Move on? Not until the question are answered. One paragraph of the decision leaves questions:

  Moreover, the Court In Bullock did not limit or in any way invalidate votes that had already been cast; nor did it void the results of the elections that had taken place. Se Ed. at 136- 37, 149 (affirming that court’s permanent injunction of the filing fee law). By contrast, Plaintiff would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotIy contested presidential primary in living memory.

  Since when did majority opinion trump the Constitution? Never!

• 105 Anchan // Oct 26, 2008 at 3:43 pm

  hotoffthepress2 – yeah, the judge was under control of the Ayers mind control device… all of the mass media and the lawyers in DC also forgot to put on their little foil hats, too… so none of them are pointing out this alleged constitutional conflict… our only hope now is you, Berg and a handful of bloggers who are thye only ones who seem to know the real truth…

  The judge made it clear that Berg’s “case” was ridiculous… get over it

• 106 Brian // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:57 pm

  First, the lawasuit was dismissed do to lack of standing. Meaning, the court and Mr Berg did not not have standing to show damages. Hence, the motion is know beiing appealed to the Supreme Court.

  Second, to a much earlier writer, you are stripped of your U.S. citizenship when you go to school in India. India does not allow dual citzenship, so an oath had to be taken in order for Barack “Barry Soetoro” to live there and attend school. Also, Barrack, at age 20 would not have been able to go to Pakistan on a U.S. visa as travel from the U.S. was banned. He went on an Indonesian visa which requires him to be a citizen of India. This causes two problems, if Barrack came back to the U.S and took a U.S. oath he then would become a “naturalized citizen” if not, much worse, it would make him and “illegal alien”. Either way Barrack is constituionally inelligible for POTUS.
  Regardless of being a Dem or Repub, it should be agreed upon that this should not be allowed. So make a stink now and vote for Hillary!!!!

• 107 hotoffthepress2 // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:09 pm

  Brian — I think you meant Indonesia instead of India.

• 108 Curtis // Oct 28, 2008 at 12:28 pm

  How does one go about getting a US passport without becoming a US citizen? And why is Berg so concerned about this if no one else (especially McCain and Clinton who should have more info on Obama than anyone else in America). If he truly cared about the party he would have bought these allegations to court a year ago.

• 109 Anchan // Oct 28, 2008 at 10:17 pm

  BTW – another thing to take in to consideration is that, if the case had not been thrown out, it would have taken weeks, if not months, before the wheels of justice would have turned to the point that they would have actually evaluated the documents (courts have to follow procedure). So, it would not have been resolved by the election, and it would have created more attention.

• 110 Sarah // Nov 4, 2008 at 11:41 am

  This is ridiculous. Urban myth, on the internet.

• 111 hotoffthepress2 // Nov 4, 2008 at 11:43 am

  Sarah — Obama is the “urban myth” (a.k.a., “mystery candidate” and “empty suit”).

• 112 Sarah // Nov 4, 2008 at 12:57 pm

  Hotoff the….guess you didn’t get an education. Well, its’ not too late. Listen less to Rush and Hanity and try reading instead…in a library.

• 113 hotoffthepress2 // Nov 4, 2008 at 1:02 pm

  Sarah — I just came from the library. By the way, I didn’t see you there.

• 114 hotoffthepress2 // Nov 4, 2008 at 8:12 pm

  Note to “Ted Guminey Jr” — Cool down, now. This blog is no place for comments like the one you hopes to slip by the comment goalie. Please try again after you take a breath.

• 115 Chuck // Nov 16, 2008 at 2:33 pm

  Hi,

  I suggest and request that you please do an update story in the next day or so on the Obama Citizenship Lawsuits. Not much has been written about these cases recently. Your news site is one of the few to cover these cases.

  Few Americans and readers now that a 2nd case has just reached the U.S. Supreme Court and has been Docketed before Justice Souter. The 2nd one is the Donofrio Case filed in NJ. The 1st was the Berg vs. Obama case filed in PA. Since both are in the jurisdiction of Souter, he has both of them.

  —————–
  U.S. Supreme Court Docket Entry for the Donofrio Case, the 2nd case to reach the U.S. Supreme Court, in regards to Obama’s citizenship status:
  http://search.access.gpo.gov/supreme-court/SearchRight.asp?ct=Supreme-Court-Dockets&q1=Donofrio&x=33&y=24
  —————–

  —————–
  U.S. Supreme Court Docket Entry for Berg vs. Obama, the first case to reach the U.S. Supreme Court, in regards to Obama’s citizenship status:
  http://search.access.gpo.gov/supreme-court/SearchRight.asp?ct=Supreme-Court-Dockets&q1=Philip+J.+Berg&x=30&y=15
  —————–

  A website monitoring and listing the status of all known cases in the USA challenging Obama’s qualifications to serve as the President per the U.S. Constitution.

  http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx

  Chuck
  Lehigh Valley PA

• 116 Larry // Nov 19, 2008 at 12:46 pm

  If memory from my school days serves me correctly, there would not be tha big of a problem with President-elect Obama being denied the presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. A few elections ago when we had Ross Perot possibly denying a majority of delegates for election, the lection would then have been turned over to the House of Representatives. Interesting enough is some previous comments made during the primaries where it was “jokedly or maybe non-jokedly” mentioned that don’t be surprised if Hillary wouldn’t still end up being elected president.

• 117 leonard // Nov 27, 2008 at 4:53 pm

  I believe Obama pulled a fast one on america I sold insurance or 7 years it is possible to pull off a sale like what and how he did it. OBAMA’S NOT A CITIZEN BUT HE MADE HISTORY being the first black man to walk this plank using change to relieve the fears of a well planned diobolic economic mess in early 2003 that balooned on Q for his election it’s priceless! hahhhahahah we are all suckers for this and complete fools to let this be a standard in american politics.

• 118 leonard // Nov 27, 2008 at 4:57 pm

  THE ART OF LEVERAGE IS THE ART OF THROWING PEOPLE OFF BALANCE
  OBAMA DID IT MASTERFULLY DON’T FORGET HE’S AN ATTY TOO! heheh

• 119 mary h // Nov 28, 2008 at 8:30 am

  No one in the gov. seems interested in whether Obama is eligile to be president or not . How can this happen in America. Are there any honest judges today that can’t be bought. With all the eviden ce that shows Obama in kenyan how can this not keep him from office. Lord help us all if this can’t be stopped.

• 120 Ricstir // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:31 am

  Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in
  Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality
  Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American
  citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama’s
  mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to
  Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and
  Barack’s American citizenship.

• 121 hotoffthepress2 // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:37 am

  That’s right, Ricstir!

• 122 Patriot // Dec 2, 2008 at 9:41 pm

  Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys in order to get these lawsuits dismissed. Call me silly, but if there was nothing to hide why doesn’t he just release his original Certificate of Live Birth that is locked up in Hawaii to prove that he is an American citizen? The American people have only the SCOTUS standing between them and Obama to uphold the U.S. Constitution. On December 5th, if the SCOTUS decides to not pursue this issue further, then the very foundation this country was built on will be thrown aside. God help us.

• 123 Republican dog // Dec 2, 2008 at 10:44 pm

  If Senator Obama has nothing to hide, then why wont he produce his birth certificate? That is, the long form version, which will provide all the answers as to his citizenship and therefore his eligibility to be POTUS. But he hasn’t. And Barack, it has been alleged, has also spent some $800,000 in legal fees to make this issue go away…This leaves me wondering just who this man is? And is Senator Obama ignoring the US Constitution? – Is he stepping on this most precious document? …Unless we know the truth he could be sworn in and must take the oath of office where he must preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, but will he?

• 124 Brian // Dec 3, 2008 at 10:52 am

  What a stupid statement about no lawyer would ever file a frivilious law suit.

  Hey, I am a lawyer and I would never bring this lawsuit. Where is your standing, client? Maybe Berg has a theory on standing that passes the laugh test, but he couldn’t have been at all surprised that the court ruled against him. He had to know that the overwhelming chances were that his lawsuit would be dismissed. Maybe he did that on purpose, knowing he would get dismissed, then hoping to feed the crazied blog machine with publicity of the dismissal. I have no idea. But I’m sure that most lawyers would have both predicted the dismissal and thought the merits of the challenge were weak to non-existent.

  This is all incredibly silly. The official keeper of the records has vouched for Obama’s original birth certificate being on file. That is proof.

  Originals are always kept by whatever registry a state uses. No one ever has more than a certified copy. Who certifies it? The official keeper of records.

  So if the official word of Hawaii is not enough, none of us could prove where we were born.

  So, I just wonder, everyone who thinks Elvis is alive raise your hands.

• 125 No Free Lunch // Dec 3, 2008 at 5:49 pm

  Here are two official emails that make the public version of Obama’s Birth and his mother’s marriage to BHO Sr. HIGHLY unlikely. How could she be in Honolulu in Aug 1961 giving birth, AND in Seattle 2800 miles away attending U of WA? Why do Nobama’s bios lie that his mom and BHO Sr, were married and stayed together in Hawaii until BHO Sr left for Boston, when the reality is Stanley Ann Dunham was in Seattle and didn’t return to Hawaii until BHO Sr LEFT.

  From: pubrec@u.washington.edu
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008
  Subject: Re: Stanley “Ann” Dunham 1960 to 1970 class registration

  Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:

  Autumn 1961
  Winter 1962
  Spring 1962

  Madolyne Lawson
  Office of Public Records
  206-543-9180

  From: Stuart Lau [mailto:stuartl@hawaii.edu]
  Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008
  Subject: Re: Inquiry

  The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
  Dates of attendance:
  Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
  Spring 1963 – Summer 1966
  Fall 1972 – Fall 1974
  Summer 1976
  Spring 1978
  Fall 1984 – Summer 1992

  Degrees awarded:
  BA – Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
  MA – Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
  PhD – Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

  Sincerely, Stuart Lau
  ****************************************
  Stuart Lau
  University Registrar
  Office of Admissions and Records
  University of Hawaii at Manoa
  Ph: (808) 956-8010

• 126 mussa // Aug 16, 2009 at 11:08 am

  so how did the Obama citizenship end???

• 127 hotoffthepress2 // Aug 16, 2009 at 12:02 pm

  Still in progress.

• 128 lexi // Sep 20, 2009 at 4:33 pm

  I think this has been settled, cant we move on?

• 129 hotoffthepress2 // Sep 20, 2009 at 4:50 pm

  Pay attention, Lexi: This post was published a long time ago (i.e., BEFORE the election).

• 130 AJA BROOKS // Jan 10, 2010 at 12:26 am

  As of 1/4/10 the most recent date that the Supreme Court has been reviewing documents about his citizenship, it’s still being contested — AFTER THE ELECTION.

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