Comments on: Christians Sacrificed to ‘Clean Up’ Obama’s Past http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/ Humor, Politics, Culture & Capitalism @BobMcCarty Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:41:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Andrew Johnson http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-9016 Andrew Johnson Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:15:22 +0000 http://bobmccarty.com/?p=7871#comment-9016 The West Papuan people have ALWAYS rejected being sold like cattle, and rejected Indonesian efforts to prolong colonization with fake 'autonomy', here's one good example from 2005: http://wpik.org/Src/20050812.html Another another from a few days ago: http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_291188.html The West Papuan people have ALWAYS rejected being sold like cattle, and rejected Indonesian efforts to prolong colonization with fake ‘autonomy’, here’s one good example from 2005:
http://wpik.org/Src/20050812.html

Another another from a few days ago:
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_291188.html

]]> By: Calum Hyslop http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8996 Calum Hyslop Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:27:49 +0000 http://bobmccarty.com/?p=7871#comment-8996 Why is it that the closer we get to the election the further we get from the truth. This article has more twisted facts than a convention of climate change deniers. First while most republicans have probably never heard of West Papua, but still love making the millions of dollars out of the place, Eni Faleomavaega has for at least ten years been campaigning across the globe for the world to recognise the plight of the West Papuan people. Why? Because Eni is a Pacific Islander himself and has always shown ethical solidarity with other Pacific Islanders. Second, many people in in the West Papuan struggle now believe that Special Autonomy may be a way forward for Papua instead of independance. For Eni F to change his position to support Autonomy is not a sell-out but rather after long dialogues with Papuan leaders. You may disagree with Eni's position but it is not a sell-out. Third, there is no relationship between Eni changing his position on Autonomy and support for Obama in Indonesia. Indonesians like most of the world are geniunely excited about an Obama Presidency, but even more so, due to the fact that they feel Obama may have some affinity with them. Fourth, the Papuan conflict is not a religious conflict, even though many outsiders would like it to be. The minority muslim Papuan population stand side by side their christian brothers in their demand for a better life. Why is it that the closer we get to the election the further we get from the truth. This article has more twisted facts than a convention of climate change deniers.
First while most republicans have probably never heard of West Papua, but still love making the millions of dollars out of the place, Eni Faleomavaega has for at least ten years been campaigning across the globe for the world to recognise the plight of the West Papuan people. Why? Because Eni is a Pacific Islander himself and has always shown ethical solidarity with other Pacific Islanders.
Second, many people in in the West Papuan struggle now believe that Special Autonomy may be a way forward for Papua instead of independance. For Eni F to change his position to support Autonomy is not a sell-out but rather after long dialogues with Papuan leaders. You may disagree with Eni’s position but it is not a sell-out.
Third, there is no relationship between Eni changing his position on Autonomy and support for Obama in Indonesia. Indonesians like most of the world are geniunely excited about an Obama Presidency, but even more so, due to the fact that they feel Obama may have some affinity with them.
Fourth, the Papuan conflict is not a religious conflict, even though many outsiders would like it to be. The minority muslim Papuan population stand side by side their christian brothers in their demand for a better life.

]]> By: hotoffthepress2 http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8980 hotoffthepress2 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:52:49 +0000 http://bobmccarty.com/?p=7871#comment-8980 Andrew -- Thanks, I'll check it out. Andrew — Thanks, I’ll check it out.

]]> By: Andrew Johnson http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8979 Andrew Johnson Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:51:21 +0000 http://bobmccarty.com/?p=7871#comment-8979 BTW you can read the US Dept. State account published in 1995 at: http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/frus/summaries/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html I also keep a highlighted copy at http://wpik.org/Src/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html BTW you can read the US Dept. State account published in 1995 at:
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/frus/summaries/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html

I also keep a highlighted copy at http://wpik.org/Src/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html

]]> By: Andrew Johnson http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8978 Andrew Johnson Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:42:27 +0000 http://bobmccarty.com/?p=7871#comment-8978 Whoops, the about should read "B.T.W. In 1963 JFK put the Ertsberg (West Papua) project at risk" Whoops, the about should read “B.T.W. In 1963 JFK put the Ertsberg (West Papua) project at risk”

]]> By: hotoffthepress2 http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8977 hotoffthepress2 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:41:57 +0000 http://bobmccarty.com/?p=7871#comment-8977 Andrew -- Thanks for that load of information! Andrew — Thanks for that load of information!

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