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		<title>By: Andrew Johnson</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-9016</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The West Papuan people have ALWAYS rejected being sold like cattle, and rejected Indonesian efforts to prolong colonization with fake &#039;autonomy&#039;, here&#039;s one good example from 2005:
http://wpik.org/Src/20050812.html

Another another from a few days ago:
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_291188.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The West Papuan people have ALWAYS rejected being sold like cattle, and rejected Indonesian efforts to prolong colonization with fake &#8216;autonomy&#8217;, here&#8217;s one good example from 2005:<br />
<a href="http://wpik.org/Src/20050812.html" rel="nofollow">http://wpik.org/Src/20050812.html</a></p>
<p>Another another from a few days ago:<br />
<a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_291188.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_291188.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Calum Hyslop</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8996</link>
		<dc:creator>Calum Hyslop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that the closer we get to the election the further we get from the truth. This article has more twisted facts than a convention of climate change deniers.
First while most republicans have probably never heard of West Papua, but still love making the millions of dollars out of the place, Eni Faleomavaega has for at least ten years been campaigning across the globe for the world to recognise the plight of the West Papuan people. Why? Because Eni is a Pacific Islander himself and has always shown ethical solidarity with other Pacific Islanders.
Second, many people in in the West Papuan struggle now believe that Special Autonomy may be a way forward for Papua instead of independance. For Eni F to change his position to support Autonomy is not a sell-out but rather after long dialogues with Papuan leaders. You may disagree with Eni&#039;s position but it is not a sell-out.
Third, there is no relationship between Eni changing his position on Autonomy and support for Obama in Indonesia. Indonesians like most of the world are geniunely excited about an Obama Presidency, but even more so, due to the fact that they feel Obama may have some affinity with them.
Fourth, the Papuan conflict is not a religious conflict, even though many outsiders would like it to be. The minority muslim Papuan population stand side by side their christian brothers in their demand for a better life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the closer we get to the election the further we get from the truth. This article has more twisted facts than a convention of climate change deniers.<br />
First while most republicans have probably never heard of West Papua, but still love making the millions of dollars out of the place, Eni Faleomavaega has for at least ten years been campaigning across the globe for the world to recognise the plight of the West Papuan people. Why? Because Eni is a Pacific Islander himself and has always shown ethical solidarity with other Pacific Islanders.<br />
Second, many people in in the West Papuan struggle now believe that Special Autonomy may be a way forward for Papua instead of independance. For Eni F to change his position to support Autonomy is not a sell-out but rather after long dialogues with Papuan leaders. You may disagree with Eni&#8217;s position but it is not a sell-out.<br />
Third, there is no relationship between Eni changing his position on Autonomy and support for Obama in Indonesia. Indonesians like most of the world are geniunely excited about an Obama Presidency, but even more so, due to the fact that they feel Obama may have some affinity with them.<br />
Fourth, the Papuan conflict is not a religious conflict, even though many outsiders would like it to be. The minority muslim Papuan population stand side by side their christian brothers in their demand for a better life.</p>
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		<title>By: hotoffthepress2</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8980</link>
		<dc:creator>hotoffthepress2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew -- Thanks, I&#039;ll check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8212; Thanks, I&#8217;ll check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Johnson</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8979</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW you can read the US Dept. State account published in 1995 at:
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/frus/summaries/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html

I also keep a highlighted copy at http://wpik.org/Src/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW you can read the US Dept. State account published in 1995 at:<br />
<a href="http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/frus/summaries/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html" rel="nofollow">http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/frus/summaries/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html</a></p>
<p>I also keep a highlighted copy at <a href="http://wpik.org/Src/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html" rel="nofollow">http://wpik.org/Src/950306_FRUS_XXIII_1961-63.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Johnson</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8978</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, the about should read &quot;B.T.W. In 1963 JFK put the Ertsberg (West Papua) project at risk&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, the about should read &#8220;B.T.W. In 1963 JFK put the Ertsberg (West Papua) project at risk&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hotoffthepress2</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8977</link>
		<dc:creator>hotoffthepress2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew -- Thanks for that load of information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8212; Thanks for that load of information!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Johnson</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8976</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is NO conspiracy theory nor anything new.

West Papua has been CENTRAL to U.S. economic ambitions since the 1930s - yes this Pacific nation you&#039;ve never heard of; host to the World&#039;s largest gold mine, and largest copper mine, one and the same built by Bechtel Inc. for Freeport Sulphur - which became Freeport McMoRan.

The Rockefellers found out about the GOLD and Copper in 1936 and knowing neither the Dutch nor local Papuan people would allow ANYONE to mine their religious sacred mountain for its ore. It remain a Rockefeller secret until March 1959 when the Papuan Mines Office announced it had found huge amounts of gold washed into the Arafura Sea, and they were sending teams to discoever which mountain it was coming from.

By August 1959 the Rockefeller company Freeport Sulphur was sending its team to claim the entire Carstensz Pyramid (mountain) area for Freeport.

While the Rockefellers sent one of their nephews Michael Rockefeller to make friendly with the local Papuan people; Prescott Bush&#039;s partner and Cold War architect Robert Lovett swung into action.

Lovett told U.S. President elect John F Kennedy who to appoint for State, Treasury, Defense, and National Security Adviser.

While Kennedy is distracted during April 1961 with the Bay of Pigs nonsense set into motion the previous year, the NSC and Lovett&#039;s agent McGeorge Bundy&#039;s focus is on West Papua.

Read the U.S. Dept. of State account of the deal for yourselves - it is fact - the Bonesmen (Lovett, Bundy, and now Bush etc.) have been keeping the U.S. colonization and mining of West Papua secret for years - their own private gold mine, and what a gold mine it is.

B.T.W. In 1962 JFK put the Ertsberg (West Papua) project at risk by proposing a fiscal package to stablize the Indonesian government. Lovett &amp; Bundy had spent 1961 telling JFK that West Papua had to be sacrificed to save America by buying Sukarno&#039;s friendship; the President was doing the logical thing. BUT it was also against the Bonemen and CIA plans since 1957 to put General Suharto into power. Hundred of billion of dollars of profits were at risk. That&#039;s what was NOT reported in the Warren Commission.

What a fine mess we make when first we practice to deceive.

The West Papuan people save thousands of American lives during the Pacific War; a wonderful decent people, and we western nations have paid a foreign Islamic military to slaughter hundreds of thousands of West Papuan people since 1963. Who are the savages ?

PLEASE GET AMERICANS TALKING ABOUT THIS.

Andrew
Sydney, Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is NO conspiracy theory nor anything new.</p>
<p>West Papua has been CENTRAL to U.S. economic ambitions since the 1930s &#8211; yes this Pacific nation you&#8217;ve never heard of; host to the World&#8217;s largest gold mine, and largest copper mine, one and the same built by Bechtel Inc. for Freeport Sulphur &#8211; which became Freeport McMoRan.</p>
<p>The Rockefellers found out about the GOLD and Copper in 1936 and knowing neither the Dutch nor local Papuan people would allow ANYONE to mine their religious sacred mountain for its ore. It remain a Rockefeller secret until March 1959 when the Papuan Mines Office announced it had found huge amounts of gold washed into the Arafura Sea, and they were sending teams to discoever which mountain it was coming from.</p>
<p>By August 1959 the Rockefeller company Freeport Sulphur was sending its team to claim the entire Carstensz Pyramid (mountain) area for Freeport.</p>
<p>While the Rockefellers sent one of their nephews Michael Rockefeller to make friendly with the local Papuan people; Prescott Bush&#8217;s partner and Cold War architect Robert Lovett swung into action.</p>
<p>Lovett told U.S. President elect John F Kennedy who to appoint for State, Treasury, Defense, and National Security Adviser.</p>
<p>While Kennedy is distracted during April 1961 with the Bay of Pigs nonsense set into motion the previous year, the NSC and Lovett&#8217;s agent McGeorge Bundy&#8217;s focus is on West Papua.</p>
<p>Read the U.S. Dept. of State account of the deal for yourselves &#8211; it is fact &#8211; the Bonesmen (Lovett, Bundy, and now Bush etc.) have been keeping the U.S. colonization and mining of West Papua secret for years &#8211; their own private gold mine, and what a gold mine it is.</p>
<p>B.T.W. In 1962 JFK put the Ertsberg (West Papua) project at risk by proposing a fiscal package to stablize the Indonesian government. Lovett &amp; Bundy had spent 1961 telling JFK that West Papua had to be sacrificed to save America by buying Sukarno&#8217;s friendship; the President was doing the logical thing. BUT it was also against the Bonemen and CIA plans since 1957 to put General Suharto into power. Hundred of billion of dollars of profits were at risk. That&#8217;s what was NOT reported in the Warren Commission.</p>
<p>What a fine mess we make when first we practice to deceive.</p>
<p>The West Papuan people save thousands of American lives during the Pacific War; a wonderful decent people, and we western nations have paid a foreign Islamic military to slaughter hundreds of thousands of West Papuan people since 1963. Who are the savages ?</p>
<p>PLEASE GET AMERICANS TALKING ABOUT THIS.</p>
<p>Andrew<br />
Sydney, Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: hotoffthepress2</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotoffthepress2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Braindead -- You&#039;re right in that it will be &quot;one dark and stormy night&quot; if Obama gets elected.  As far as bias and falsehood is concerned, all one must do to find that is tune in to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, etc., for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Braindead &#8212; You&#8217;re right in that it will be &#8220;one dark and stormy night&#8221; if Obama gets elected.  As far as bias and falsehood is concerned, all one must do to find that is tune in to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, etc., for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Branedy</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8970</link>
		<dc:creator>Branedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article reeks of bias, and falsehood. Really &lt;i&gt;&#039;According to our Indonesian sources, “officials” who...&lt;/i&gt; is like starting a book with a line like  &#039;One dark and stormy night...&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article reeks of bias, and falsehood. Really <i>&#8216;According to our Indonesian sources, “officials” who&#8230;</i> is like starting a book with a line like  &#8216;One dark and stormy night&#8230;&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: hotoffthepress2</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2008/10/18/christians-sacrificed-to-clean-up-obamas-past/comment-page-1/#comment-8969</link>
		<dc:creator>hotoffthepress2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, JD!</description>
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