Whoa…just a second here guys. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, but the founding scientists of all those fields were avowed Christians, and NONE of these fields are at odds with Christianity, unless you mean one of the sects that “interprets” the Bible into a very strange and twisted “religion” of it’s “leader.” And like politicians, they are on TV all the time.

I am not going to “preach” to you or volley in this forum because A) I don’t have time and B) it can’t be resolved in 100o words or less. But if you will dig deep enough scientifically and Biblically, you will find that they support each other IF taken at face value, and if chased logically to their ultimate conclusion, which will be an ongoing process since neither “perspective” has even come close to the end…or the beginning, for that matter.

First it was the Big Bang, then Quantum Leaps of Strings and then a collision of the ‘Branes. And now looking for the Higg’s bosun.

Science is fun! So is Theology. BOTH are a search for “truth.” We have facts on both sides…”evidence,” but not “proof.” “Reality” will never have “proof” empirically. I can’t “prove” that I existed yesterday. I have evidence, but no Tardis.

BTW – Yes, it’s convenient t0 compare Christianity to the other “religious” myths. But as C.S. Lewis and even Joseph Campbell pointed-out, just because it’s a “myth” doesn’t mean it isn’t true. We accept the existence of Plato and Aristotle on about 1/10,000 of the “evidence” that we have for Christianity.

I guess I should apologize for interjecting myself into this debate, but since I do know the Man personally, and do believe that His purpose is NOT religious, but personal, our mandate is to introduce Him to as many people as possible.

Don’t reject Him until you know Him. NOT the ‘church,’ not the “religion,” but Jesus.

Get to know Him. I challenge you to challenge Him (not me – I’m terrible at arguing and as a man I am very non-impressive) regarding His existence. Come on, go right to the source. Don’t be afraid. If He’s not there, you’ll a least get to have good laugh at that my expense! You can have a beer with your buddies and tell them about some moron on the internet who thinks…etc.etc…

But if He is….”reality” takes on a new meaning.

And look up “Pascal’s Wager” while you’re at it.

And back to the original premise, the alleged contradiction and mutual exclusivity of Christianity and science, there is one of the places I go for resolution of these questions:

http://reasons.org

If you’ve been there already, you know that it’s staff consists of Scientists, meaning they have PhD’s in their field.

Random Googling will bring-up all manner of strange “Christian” websites. But at http://equip.org you’ll find somethings that give straight answers starting from the theological perspective, including the one that is mentioned in the Bible. There are two “books” given use to discover Truth: The Bible and the Book of Nature. BOTH are included and I will guarantee you that ultimately the two will become one. If not, we can have a Presidential BeerSummit and I’m buying. I’ll even throw in Buffalo Wings and Kamakzi shooters.

So anyway. Take the Pepsi Challenge. If you are brave enough. If I’m wrong, we all die, the universe ends, the stars go out and eternal nothingness reigns. Who cares? Life is meaningless, we create our own purpose, our own morality, there are no constraints, no consequences, reality has no means to judge “right” or “wrong” or even define those terms. There is no rationality. We are a cosmic accident, it’s equally “moral” to help an old lady across the street or throw her under the bus (Sartre, not me.) We are ruled by our own strength of will (Nietzsche) or lack thereof.

Oh I just read Richard’s comment above…that’s so funny! That argument has been used for since…wow…at least the 13th century, and if I had time to write any more I could find it earlier…that we are now so smart that we can dismiss superstitious attempts to explain the “unknown” as “magic!” Like electricity….it’s “magic,” be afraid! Worship the Light (Sun, Moon, Twig, whatever.)

There’s always a lot of truth in fairy tales, but I don’t remember any fairies in the Bible. Besides, fairy tales usually have a happy ending. Not so in the Bible. But it’s up to you, no one can force their beliefs on you, but that works both ways.

Dude, where has the time gone! I am so behind on my work. But one more time…take the challenge. I probably will never be back at this site again, even though I quite like it!

And there’s a Dr Who marathon on that I refuse to miss. As a Christian, I am not bound by mere materialism. I’m quite happy with what current science can’t explain. Therefore I live unbound by a closed universe :)

Alex is welcome to believe whatever he wishes, which is the point. This episode talks about the integrity of each person, and the how the need for government control ultimately leads to violence. It ends with hope that the false promise of government control can be exposed, and presumably, defeated.

When a state decides it can tell you what to believe, what to say, and punish you for speaking your mind, it has lost legitimacy.