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	<title>Comments on: Former White House Speechwriter Calls for Barack Obama to &#8216;Release the Birth Documents&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Elianastar</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2009/10/15/release-the-birth-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-18481</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve scanned through the comments here. Most defending the THEORY  that Obama is a &quot;natural born citizen&quot; have failed to acknowledge the POINT of the article:
IF Obama has nothing to hide,
IF he has documents... in addition to whatever has been produced as a &quot;birth certificate&quot;... and he DOES have such documents or he wouldn&#039;t be spending so much money locking them down...
WHY doesn&#039;t he stop ALL the debate and speculation and
SIMPLY PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTS that will silence the questions?
WHY does he CONTINUE to spend millions of dollars to keep them concealed?
WHY was one of his FIRST orders of business on Jan 20, 2009 to sign an Executive Order to SEAL every document that would definitely answer these questions?
&quot;If one has nothing to hide, one hides nothing.&quot;
There are issues, legal/Constitutional issues, above and beyond the birth certificate, whether what he has provided is legitimate or not, that requires the OTHER documents he actively and aggressively conceals and protects to definitely quell.
Unless and until THESE documents are released and verified, to take the position that HE IS a legal natural born citizen perfectly and legitimately occupying the Office of President... or to take the position that Obama IS NOT a legal natural born citizen and must be immediately removed from office because he is not qualified to hold the Office according to the Constitution... EITHER position is a THEORY because there is NO DOCUMENTATION that definitely supports EITHER position! It is BIGGER than whether there is a birth certificate, what kind of birth certificate it is, and whether or not it is a valid/verified birth certificate.
The bottom line is, IF OBAMA had produced ALL the documents necessary so that they could be verified, THIS ARTICLE AND THIS DEBATE would not exist. The comments following this article would be MOOT and without merit... which ever side of the discussion you fall on. THAT&#039;s what this article is saying and it is the reason I cannot dismiss the debate as without merit... because neither I NOR ANYONE ELSE, other than Obama and the individuals complicit in the concealment of these documents, has the information NECESSARY to take an informed position and defend it with any integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve scanned through the comments here. Most defending the THEORY  that Obama is a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; have failed to acknowledge the POINT of the article: </p>
<p>IF Obama has nothing to hide,<br />
IF he has documents&#8230; in addition to whatever has been produced as a &#8220;birth certificate&#8221;&#8230; and he DOES have such documents or he wouldn&#8217;t be spending so much money locking them down&#8230;<br />
WHY doesn&#8217;t he stop ALL the debate and speculation and<br />
SIMPLY PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTS that will silence the questions?<br />
WHY does he CONTINUE to spend millions of dollars to keep them concealed?<br />
WHY was one of his FIRST orders of business on Jan 20, 2009 to sign an Executive Order to SEAL every document that would definitely answer these questions?<br />
&#8220;If one has nothing to hide, one hides nothing.&#8221; </p>
<p>There are issues, legal/Constitutional issues, above and beyond the birth certificate, whether what he has provided is legitimate or not, that requires the OTHER documents he actively and aggressively conceals and protects to definitely quell. </p>
<p>Unless and until THESE documents are released and verified, to take the position that HE IS a legal natural born citizen perfectly and legitimately occupying the Office of President&#8230; or to take the position that Obama IS NOT a legal natural born citizen and must be immediately removed from office because he is not qualified to hold the Office according to the Constitution&#8230; EITHER position is a THEORY because there is NO DOCUMENTATION that definitely supports EITHER position! It is BIGGER than whether there is a birth certificate, what kind of birth certificate it is, and whether or not it is a valid/verified birth certificate.</p>
<p>The bottom line is, IF OBAMA had produced ALL the documents necessary so that they could be verified, THIS ARTICLE AND THIS DEBATE would not exist. The comments following this article would be MOOT and without merit&#8230; which ever side of the discussion you fall on. THAT&#8217;s what this article is saying and it is the reason I cannot dismiss the debate as without merit&#8230; because neither I NOR ANYONE ELSE, other than Obama and the individuals complicit in the concealment of these documents, has the information NECESSARY to take an informed position and defend it with any integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: smrstrauss</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2009/10/15/release-the-birth-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-18393</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;He hasn’t shown a long-form birth certificate that shows exactly where he was born; hospital and attending doctor.
True. But Hawaii does not send it out anymore. Thus the situation that Obama has not shown it can be explained by the simple fact that he does not have it. And besides, the document that he showed is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the authorities in Hawaii.
Re: &quot;At that time, Hawaii allowed foreign-born babies to acquire a certification of live birth once they moved there.&quot;
No it didn&#039;t. That was not allowed until 1982, more than twenty years after Obama&#039;s birth
Re: &quot; Obama’s sister, Maya Soetoro, was born in Indonesia and has a certification of live birth.&quot;
No she doesn&#039;t. She has no file in the Hawaii birth registry, as Leo Donofrio&#039;s research has shown. She is now a naturalized US citizen.
Re: &quot;Sun Yat-Sun (father of modern China) born in China, also has a certification of live birth.&quot;
Yes. That was in 1904. At one time Manhattan island sold for $26. A lot has happened since then.
As the National Review pointed out: &quot;The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.&quot;
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmJhMzlmZWFhOTQ3YjUxMDE2YWY4ZDMzZjZlYTVmZmU=&amp;w=MA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;He hasn’t shown a long-form birth certificate that shows exactly where he was born; hospital and attending doctor. </p>
<p>True. But Hawaii does not send it out anymore. Thus the situation that Obama has not shown it can be explained by the simple fact that he does not have it. And besides, the document that he showed is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the authorities in Hawaii. </p>
<p>Re: &#8220;At that time, Hawaii allowed foreign-born babies to acquire a certification of live birth once they moved there.&#8221;</p>
<p>No it didn&#8217;t. That was not allowed until 1982, more than twenty years after Obama&#8217;s birth</p>
<p>Re: &#8221; Obama’s sister, Maya Soetoro, was born in Indonesia and has a certification of live birth.&#8221;</p>
<p>No she doesn&#8217;t. She has no file in the Hawaii birth registry, as Leo Donofrio&#8217;s research has shown. She is now a naturalized US citizen. </p>
<p>Re: &#8220;Sun Yat-Sun (father of modern China) born in China, also has a certification of live birth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. That was in 1904. At one time Manhattan island sold for $26. A lot has happened since then. </p>
<p>As the National Review pointed out: &#8220;The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmJhMzlmZWFhOTQ3YjUxMDE2YWY4ZDMzZjZlYTVmZmU=&#038;w=MA" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmJhMzlmZWFhOTQ3YjUxMDE2YWY4ZDMzZjZlYTVmZmU=&#038;w=MA</a></p>
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		<title>By: smrstrauss</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Look up what a natural born citizen is….in short a citizen born of two parents who ARE citizens! &quot;
Is that why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:
Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)
Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)
  And:
Gov. Bobby Jindal, who delivered the Republican response to Obama’s speech, said: “Regardless of party, all Americans are moved by the President’s personal story - the son of an American mother and a Kenyan father, who grew up to become leader of the free world.”
Jindal, of course, would be even less of a natural born citizen under your idea because neither of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. His mother was about three months pregnant when they came to the USA.
And Yale Law Review wrote: &quot;It is well settled that “native-born” citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born. It is also clear that persons born abroad of alien parents, who later become citizens by naturalization, do not. (Jill A. Pryor, Yale Law Review, 1988)
At the time of the writing of the Constitution, Natural Born was the phrase for what we now call Native Born. Native Born was seldom used (I cannot find it at all). Natural Born was the law in England and in the US Colonies that referred to people who were citizens or subjects due to the palace where they were born regardless of the number of parents who were citizens.
The term &quot;Natural Born&quot; was used instead of native born as late as World War I (maybe later, but I can&#039;t find it), when men registering for the draft were asked whether they were citizens, and then if they were citizens whether they were naturalized or Natural Born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Look up what a natural born citizen is….in short a citizen born of two parents who ARE citizens! &#8221;</p>
<p>Is that why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:</p>
<p>Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:</p>
<p>“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)</p>
<p>Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:</p>
<p>“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)</p>
<p>  And:</p>
<p>Gov. Bobby Jindal, who delivered the Republican response to Obama’s speech, said: “Regardless of party, all Americans are moved by the President’s personal story &#8211; the son of an American mother and a Kenyan father, who grew up to become leader of the free world.”</p>
<p>Jindal, of course, would be even less of a natural born citizen under your idea because neither of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. His mother was about three months pregnant when they came to the USA.</p>
<p>And Yale Law Review wrote: &#8220;It is well settled that “native-born” citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born. It is also clear that persons born abroad of alien parents, who later become citizens by naturalization, do not. (Jill A. Pryor, Yale Law Review, 1988)</p>
<p>At the time of the writing of the Constitution, Natural Born was the phrase for what we now call Native Born. Native Born was seldom used (I cannot find it at all). Natural Born was the law in England and in the US Colonies that referred to people who were citizens or subjects due to the palace where they were born regardless of the number of parents who were citizens.</p>
<p>The term &#8220;Natural Born&#8221; was used instead of native born as late as World War I (maybe later, but I can&#8217;t find it), when men registering for the draft were asked whether they were citizens, and then if they were citizens whether they were naturalized or Natural Born.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah Right</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2009/10/15/release-the-birth-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-18366</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only part I totally disagree with you Mr. Johns is that Barrack Obama/Barry Soetoro is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!
Look up what a natural born citizen is....in short a citizen born of two parents who ARE citizens!
His mother was not of age according to law then to pass citizenship to the baby and his father WAS NOT an immigrant only a student on a visa who was Kenyan with British citizenship.
So he is NOT a natural born citizen but bending the laws a native born citizen.
However there is more than a can of worms here which has to do with his own words stating his citizenship in his autobiography (British/Kenyan), to his adoption by an Indonesian Citizen (in country), to his travels to Pakistan, to all his records he has sealed as an adult all through his life until he became a US Senator.
Though one thing is very clear he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only part I totally disagree with you Mr. Johns is that Barrack Obama/Barry Soetoro is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!</p>
<p>Look up what a natural born citizen is&#8230;.in short a citizen born of two parents who ARE citizens! </p>
<p>His mother was not of age according to law then to pass citizenship to the baby and his father WAS NOT an immigrant only a student on a visa who was Kenyan with British citizenship.</p>
<p>So he is NOT a natural born citizen but bending the laws a native born citizen. </p>
<p>However there is more than a can of worms here which has to do with his own words stating his citizenship in his autobiography (British/Kenyan), to his adoption by an Indonesian Citizen (in country), to his travels to Pakistan, to all his records he has sealed as an adult all through his life until he became a US Senator.</p>
<p>Though one thing is very clear he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane-101</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2009/10/15/release-the-birth-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-18361</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane-101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smrstrauss,
He hasn&#039;t shown a long-form birth certificate that shows exactly where he was born; hospital and attending doctor.  At that time, Hawaii allowed foreign-born babies to acquire a certification of live birth once they moved there.  Obama&#039;s sister, Maya Soetoro, was born in Indonesia and has a certification of live birth.  Sun Yat-Sun (father of modern China) born in China, also has a certification of live birth.  And Obama (born who knows where) also has a certification of live birth.  I don&#039;t understand why the big deal of taking him out of office if he wasn&#039;t eligible.  The Constitution provides directions in the event it would happen.  The VP would take over until a legitimate candidate is elected....that&#039;s it.  European and former Soviet nations have special elections quite often.  Another democrat could win.  Who knows?  It would most certainly get people out to vote finally wouldn&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smrstrauss,<br />
He hasn&#8217;t shown a long-form birth certificate that shows exactly where he was born; hospital and attending doctor.  At that time, Hawaii allowed foreign-born babies to acquire a certification of live birth once they moved there.  Obama&#8217;s sister, Maya Soetoro, was born in Indonesia and has a certification of live birth.  Sun Yat-Sun (father of modern China) born in China, also has a certification of live birth.  And Obama (born who knows where) also has a certification of live birth.  I don&#8217;t understand why the big deal of taking him out of office if he wasn&#8217;t eligible.  The Constitution provides directions in the event it would happen.  The VP would take over until a legitimate candidate is elected&#8230;.that&#8217;s it.  European and former Soviet nations have special elections quite often.  Another democrat could win.  Who knows?  It would most certainly get people out to vote finally wouldn&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: smrstrauss</title>
		<link>http://bobmccarty.com/2009/10/15/release-the-birth-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-18342</link>
		<dc:creator>smrstrauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Why does his MYSPACE.COM page list him as 52 not 48!&quot;
Because MYSPACE is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Why does his MYSPACE.COM page list him as 52 not 48!&#8221;</p>
<p>Because MYSPACE is wrong.</p>
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